ak47 is the best gun

[Lunartique]

i didnt notice i accidentaly left some weapons on a collapsed group so that was dumb
so some corrections
PKM is the best LMG, not the M249.
also the P90 is statistically better than SL8 but if the whole stuff with high firerate stops being calculated by gmod then SL8 is better
 

but shouldnt firerate enchanted weapons break/ get limited if gmod doesnt register high RPM? like my 1000 RPM gatling gabe

edit: https://prnt.sc/10ieu14

Edited March 11, 2021 by voltz07

[Zesty]

24 minutes ago, voltz07 said:

i didnt notice i accidentaly left some weapons on a collapsed group so that was dumb
so some corrections
PKM is the best LMG, not the M249.
also the P90 is statistically better than SL8 but if the whole stuff with high firerate stops being calculated by gmod then SL8 is better
 

but shouldnt firerate enchanted weapons break/ get limited if gmod doesnt register high RPM? like my 1000 RPM gatling gabe

how is the p90 / pkm better than the sl8? also your 1k rpm gatling gabe will shoot fast some times, and slower in others, to not have to worry about the rng about it just use 1-2 firerate foods.

[Saiko]

golden AK is obviously the best gun

[Lunartique]

31 minutes ago, Abstergo McStubbins said:

The reason it breaks is actually kind of interesting, something very hard to fix.

 

First of all, RPM doesn't mean shit. There is actually essentially 3 possible firerates; normal, a bit faster, and what you consider "fast as fuck" (Jugg mini, high firerate leggies). Ideally here they would remove the RPM stat entirely because it is misleading and doesn't actually let you anything. The old Delay stat was actually more accurate. The real issue is a mathematical one. When you get into certain firerates(Say, 0.041 delay between shots), the server reads this as "fire 2.5625 shots per tick." You can see the issue here. How is a nigga gonna fire 2.5 shots per tick? When the delay is not divisible by the tickrate evenly, the gun simply cannot work so the failsafe kicks in and the gun's firerate just goes to it's default value.

if that's so then sl8 is the best assault rifle then
 

 

34 minutes ago, ZestyBoi said:

how is the p90 / pkm better than the sl8? also your 1k rpm gatling gabe will shoot fast some times, and slower in others, to not have to worry about the rng about it just use 1-2 firerate foods.

p90 has 858 rpm compared to sl8's 750 but deals 4 damage lower at 25 per shot,
which makes it have a faster ttk, but if the above is true then sl8 is better

[Zesty]

1 minute ago, voltz07 said:

if that's so then sl8 is the best assault rifle then
 

 

p90 has 858 rpm compared to sl8's 750 but deals 4 damage lower at 25 per shot,
which makes it have a faster ttk, but if the above is true then sl8 is better

SL8 firerate is 706, also with the 29 dmg it kills in 7 shots, meaning less shots need to be landed to kill the player, making it easier to kill when a player is strafing.

[Zesty]

7 minutes ago, Abstergo McStubbins said:

I think M14 is gonna be my go to for a while, SL8 is good especially the 100 clipsize reskins but I think for raw time to kill if you can aim the M14 wins out every time. Also interesting how 125 damage snipers take 2 shots to kill headshot or not, meaning there is no point at all to go for headshots on unenchanted snipers. This is something to probably look at in a balance patch honestly, I think people should be rewarded in some way for getting a headshot with a sniper.

yeah no the m14 kills fastest as a normal weapon due to weird gun mechanics, so I am pretty sure it has the highest dps or at least highest burst dps in the game.

[Lunartique]

i updated the ttk formula with a more accurate one,
before i used "(60/RPM)*(HP/DMG)". the problem with this is that it didn't round off the shots to kill, taking something like 1.5 shots into the equation, which makes no sense.
i changed the formula to "(60/RPM)*STK" which i rounded off myself.

fiveseven truly is the best weapon

Edited March 12, 2021 by voltz07