Serial Killer Warn Appeal

[Tystefy]

In-Game Name

Tystefy

Your Steam ID

STEAM_0:0:43872828

Why were you banned or warned?

I killed a CP who walked in on me kidnapping someone as a Serial Killer. This was considered RDM.

Why should you be unwarned/unbanned?

I reasonably felt that my arrest or death was imminent because I was caught committing an illegal activity by a cop.

Who warned/banned you?

ZestyBoi

How long were you warned or banned for?

Warned for RDM

The CP in question was walking in my direction. He stopped about 5 feet away from me and turned to face me directly. He clearly saw the kidnapped body on the floor directly next to me, and he was alerted that I was a serial killer. 

 

One second later (cop still staring at me), the cop switched to a phys gun. I immediately assumed he was panicking at the sight before him and was in the process of switching to a weapon or piece of arresting equipment.

 

Logically, someone who just committed an illegal crime (which is KOS-able because I was a serial killer) in front of a cop would assume either an arrest or death would immediately occur.

 

I then killed him before he could finish swapping to a weapon because, again, I felt threatened by the cop who literally saw me commit a crime and was currently standing 5 feet away from me.

 

However, the moderator on duty, ZestyBoi, considered this too far of a stretch. When I asked "In what scenario would arrest/death not be imminent?", he replied "the one where the cp doesn't care". ZestyBoi effectively considered the possibility of the cop not caring and walking away more likely than the cop actually doing his job and attempting an arrest / prevent the kidnapping.

 

This is my recollection of the event. The CP in question- Raccoons- claimed to have recorded his side of the story. I encourage him to post it here to see where the misunderstanding lies.

Edited March 2, 2021 by Tystefy

[Zesty]

I never said it was too far of a stretch that the cp in question would've arrested you or not, I said you just couldn't kill the man before he did anything regarding arresting you.

 

I understand that it was a misunderstanding here, but you should know that you can't just attack a guy for looking in your direction, If this were true kidnapper jobs were be broken, being able to attack anybody who sees them kidnap.

You also had multiple warns, couple of them were recent, so I believed a warn would've been best instead of a verbal warning, since you've already been given a decent amount of chances to read up on the rules.

 

I am really neutral for the warn to be removed, I'll see what other staff think about the situation.

Edited March 2, 2021 by ZestyBoi
Was incorrect about current recent warns.

[Tystefy]

7 minutes ago, ZestyBoi said:

You also had multiple warns, most of them were recent,

Out of my 9 total warns, four are 2+ years old and two are from half~ a year ago.

 

… I might be incorrect about this since I can't see the year the warns were given and the sort by "date/time" isn't listing them in order for me.

[Zesty]

3 minutes ago, Tystefy said:

Out of my 9 total warns, four are 2+ years old and two are from half~ a year ago.

 

… I might be incorrect about this since I can't see the year the warns were given and the sort by "date/time" isn't listing them in order for me.

I just went back to my recording, 2 warns were very recent, so I guess I'll change my "most" to "couple" 

[Notusingthisshitnomore4228]

You should have used the warn system, specifically, the advert warning system, if you thought he was going to shoot you. Otherwise, you have to actually wait until they fire at you in order to fire back, or else it is considered RDM. Your reasoning is indeed sound, but that is not how it goes. We have a specific set of rules in place for a reason, because if we went by the logic of killing someone when we think that they will shoot/arrest you, then rdm cases would happen a lot more often, so it's just better to just follow the system in this case. In summary, the warn is valid. -1

[Guest]

Here is a video of the event.

 

 

[Tystefy]

15 minutes ago, Raccoons said:

Here is a video of the event.

 

 

You saw me commit the crime from across the fountain. 

 

You ran to the crime scene to prevent the kidnapping, like any CP would do. 

 

You were in the process of switching to police equipment while looking directly at me when I killed you. Your video proves this.

 

All of this in combination would lead to the conclusion that you were about to arrest me / prevent the kidnapping. This evidence proves I had correctly assumed this. 

 

I would have /warned 1/2/3 were it not for the fact it was obvious you were 1 - 2 seconds away from pulling something on me in my weakened serial killer state.

Edited March 2, 2021 by Tystefy

[Nipple Farm]

Yea after seeing Raccoons video I am gonna DENY this. If raccoons had pulled out his gun or cuffs I would've been a little more lenient, but he just stood there for about 2 seconds then you started shooting. The CP needs to be actively trying to arrest/want/kill before you can do anything. Warn is valid and now you know for next time.