Defending Party Members Base Across the Map

[Bunziix]

So in the motd gives this example "Sniping a player from across the map because his party member got mugged". In my opinion this should apply to raiding too. I have raided multiple bases and have been sniped from a roof top across the map by one of the party members. You are a sitting duck because all they have to do is hide and repeak when u look away and u will never know where ur getting shot from. It basically makes bases unraidable. The party members should make it known that they are affiliated with the base in some way.

[Cr0w]

Make "Sniping a player from across the map because his party member got mugged" also apply to raids, it can and has led to really stupid situations where someone can peek you from a spot where you cannot push since you will move too far from the raid or in extreme situations something like this could happen:

1. base in the suburbs villa (http://prntscr.com/k30nog)
   
2. have a hobo in your party using a base like this http://prntscr.com/k30qgi
   
3. Very easy counters that the raider cannot do much about except try to get lucky sniping back http://prntscr.com/k30so0
   

If the raider goes to the hobo base he has essentially left the raid to raid another base and can't do much about the hobo that can shoot the raider from nearly any point of the raid except inside where presumably you are waiting for the raider aswell

 

I don't think there is much reason to have this be apart of the gameplay of the server because of the reason that it leads to what i would call abuse of the party/countering rules and is no fun to play against at all.

 

We changed the rules like 8 months ago, party/gang does not mean you can automatically counter someone. You quoted the example yourself.

As a non-CP, you can only straight-up kill someone for raiding (no warnings for them to stop) if you are actually basing there or you were inside and thus your life is in danger. Like in the example given, you can't counter from across the map (again, unless it is your own base). It shouldn't be called a "counter," it should just be RP.

For the example given, hobos are unable to base in regular bases and would have no RP reason to kill those raiders without involving himself in the situation somehow.

The point can be made for someone who owns two bases, but at that point you're just being dum and trying to skirt the rules.

 

tl;dr already against the rules, people just aren't smart enough to keep up with Piklas and I

[Bunziix]

Make "Sniping a player from across the map because his party member got mugged" also apply to raids, it can and has led to really stupid situations where someone can peek you from a spot where you cannot push since you will move too far from the raid or in extreme situations something like this could happen:

1. base in the suburbs villa (http://prntscr.com/k30nog)
   
2. have a hobo in your party using a base like this http://prntscr.com/k30qgi
   
3. Very easy counters that the raider cannot do much about except try to get lucky sniping back http://prntscr.com/k30so0
   

If the raider goes to the hobo base he has essentially left the raid to raid another base and can't do much about the hobo that can shoot the raider from nearly any point of the raid except inside where presumably you are waiting for the raider aswell

 

I don't think there is much reason to have this be apart of the gameplay of the server because of the reason that it leads to what i would call abuse of the party/countering rules and is no fun to play against at all.

 

We changed the rules like 8 months ago, party/gang does not mean you can automatically counter someone. You quoted the example yourself.

As a non-CP, you can only straight-up kill someone for raiding (no warnings for them to stop) if you are actually basing there or you were inside and thus your life is in danger. Like in the example given, you can't counter from across the map (again, unless it is your own base). It shouldn't be called a "counter," it should just be RP.

For the example given, hobos are unable to base in regular bases and would have no RP reason to kill those raiders without involving himself in the situation somehow.

The point can be made for someone who owns two bases, but at that point you're just being dum and trying to skirt the rules.

 

tl;dr already against the rules, people just aren't smart enough to keep up with Piklas and I

 

 So you can't snipe people across the map because you have raidables in a base? And second you can't counter a Raid on a party/gang memneme base?

[Walter the Assaulter]

 So you can't snipe people across the map because you have raidables in a base? And second you can't counter a Raid on a party/gang memneme base?

 

Did you read what was written? Did you read what YOU wrote?

[Jeffy]

I always get shot in the back during a raid by a person who is affiliated with the base I am raiding, would it be RDM to kill the sniper who is taking out the raiders?

[Bunziix]

 So you can't snipe people across the map because you have raidables in a base? And second you can't counter a Raid on a party/gang memneme base?

 

Did you read what was written? Did you read what YOU wrote?

 

Im trying to sum it up to make sure i am correct, because i have sugar saying as long as there in the same party they can snipe me (https://imgur.com/a/4fuzN7X) , and i have Crow saying they can only snipe me when they own raidables in the base/own the base.