Harassment Ban

[shenzhen automotive]

In-Game Name

evil ass cockroach

Your Steam ID

STEAM_0:0:164378088

Why were you banned or warned?

Player Tox | Has Prior warnings

Why should you be unwarned/unbanned?

I started with a raid on a player (STEAM_0:1:21678545) as an ICE agent and killed them, they kept coming back and killing me so I called in a sit for NLR. This happened several times over until an admin pulled me to a sit (STEAM_0:0:37300202) and told me that I was breaking raid timer, and that if I continued to do so without a valid RP reason that this would be harassment. The player I was raiding broke NLR virtually every time that they were raided from the times that I saw, resulting in probably 12+ RDM killings that I, at the very least, witnessed.

After that sit I flew around as a bird and squawked as a bird for like 30 minutes before becoming an ICE officer and setting up a camera outside of the PD. I saw that the original player was kidnapping someone so I called a warrant on their home (with the reason 'murder', which was unfortunately incorrect and hastily timed on my part which is my fault). Before I could do literally anything whatsoever, I was immediately brought to a sit and was told I was being banned for harassment, without an opportunity to speak at all.

The whole ban is just pretty insane. If you set up a base outside of the PD and I fly around as a bird literally trying to shit on people, I am going to fly around the PD since that is where the most people are. I can also squawk outside of the mayor's office and have that not be harassment towards you, especially if you live under the mayor's office. It's pretty understandable that this printscreen fellow was insanely upset and that he was friends with this staff member but this is entirely unreasonable, especially since said warrant happened an insane amount of time after the original sit (35+ mins).

"Prior warnings" is also a pretty insane reason considering my last warning was in September of 2024 lol

Who warned/banned you?

Steve The Hare Harrington (STEAM_0:0:37300202)

How long were you warned or banned for?

3 days

Edited December 27, 2025 by shenzhen automotive

[HOSS]

I see 3 notes regarding you being told to leave Printscreen alone over a 2 hour period. I think the “priors” is in reference to those notes on your account.

 

I would like to get a more cohesive explanation of everything that happened, as it doesn’t seem like you are telling the whole story based off these notes on your account.

 

Also looking forward to the reply from Steve The Hare Harrington.

[Madx2r0]

I recall having the opportunity to ban you for Mass NLR against the player printscreen.

But gave you the benefit of the doubt and told you to wait raid cool down.

Before and after our sit I recall seeing you not only break NLR 2 more times but also co-erse other players to warrant and raid printscreens base. 

I however was busy doing other things to pull you into a second sit.

The primary sit I had with you, you were extremely disrespectful to printscreen. I told you to leave him alone and wait NLR timer.

Immediately after the sit another sit was called against you for NLR.

You were given many chances to leave him alone and kept doing the exact opposite, even tempting new players to raid his base with you.

[shenzhen automotive]

24 minutes ago, HOSS said:

I see 3 notes regarding you being told to leave Printscreen alone over a 2 hour period. I think the “priors” is in reference to those notes on your account.

 

I would like to get a more cohesive explanation of everything that happened, as it doesn’t seem like you are telling the whole story based off these notes on your account.

 

Also looking forward to the reply from Steve The Hare Harrington.

I only received one formal verbal warning as part of a sit of mine (?) that was handled nearly 20 minutes after I put it in regarding him coming back during raids. I believe the "3 notes" might be regarding this initial note, the final note in which I subsequently got banned and another one which I was not informed of in any respect.

 

11 minutes ago, Madx2r0 said:

I recall having the opportunity to ban you for Mass NLR against the player printscreen.

But gave you the benefit of the doubt and told you to wait raid cool down.

Before and after our sit I recall seeing you not only break NLR 2 more times but also co-erse other players to warrant and raid printscreens base. 

I however was busy doing other things to pull you into a second sit.

The primary sit I had with you, you were extremely disrespectful to printscreen. I told you to leave him alone and wait NLR timer.

Immediately after the sit another sit was called against you for NLR.

You were given many chances to leave him alone and kept doing the exact opposite, even tempting new players to raid his base with you.

I did not break NLR 2 more subsequent times. I was outside of the PD and he was actively shooting at me from inside of his base, for which I fired back. In some cases he did this outside his base and ran back in and in others he simply did it from his base. This is not a raid and does not constitute NLR in any form. What you're essentially saying with this is that he can shoot at me as much as he wants, but if he runs back into/is in his base then that would be bannable on my behalf.

 

"Extremely disrespectful" in this context means literally telling him that he was incorrect and was being rude, and that I wasn't listening to him. Notice how you didn't specify this in your reply since doing so would invalidate it.

 

There was no "immediate sit" after this. The sit before my ban occurred nearly 35 minutes prior. It's extremely disrespectful on your behalf that you're lying about this.

[Steve Harrington]

Hello Mr. Shenzhen I read through your post and what you said and I feel that I should clarify a few things before I move forward with my vote. Within your paragraphs you talked about how a sit was made towards Print screen for rdming and breaking nlr and thats what we were there for, however both of you made a sit towards each other before I pulled either of you so there could be fault from both sides considering a report was made from both of you against the other. Now In this first sit where I pulled you both I checked both players warns to see what was going on as well as the log history from the recent deaths and I noticed a note from Madx2r0 that showed you kept breaking nlr to arrest someone during lockdown less than a hour prior to the sit. Talking with Madx through dms he informed me that the mnlr was you doing it to Printscreen. So some previous history between you two being in a sit together. Sadly I do have to take that note into consideration when moving forward with how to handle each sit (so being previously talked to). You seemed to not wanna acknowledge that someone talked to you previously before and kept trying to talk. Now im a typer most of the time you could probably see that from my previous posts as well as interactions from me in game. Even when I was telling you what was going on both yourself and mr Printscreen wanted to keep talking to each other so I had to giga mute you both so I could say what needed to be said. I explained to both of you no warns would be given out but you two need to leave each other alone, if its a role play reason that's something that might not be able to be avoided but Print screen had a base next to Pd so as long as you didn't raid or hang around it I figured there would be no issues between the both of you. After returning you Print screen talked to me about feeling harassed from you. Told him that I would keep a eye on it and make sure that's not something that would happen to him. After returning him I spectated you for a little bit and you would be correct you were playing a bird flying around and squawking for a while however you weren't a bird for over 30 minutes. since u changed jobs from ice chief you weren't playing Ice Enforcer for about 13 minutes (will provide screen shots below) watching your gameplay a few things caught my eye. You only hung around the pd area mainly that corner where print Screens base was, the only things you were doing was running around his area starring at his doors, suiciding after a while then coming back. which didn't seem like you were trying to continue in role playing, felt more like you were waiting for him to do something wrong so you would be able to catch him read handed. You talked about trying to poop on people as a bird, I never saw any attempts but possible I might have missed it. But once you became a Cop again you put a camera across from his base and stood in the P.D. and kept looking at it. While watching the camera you turned it on and off then wanted him for Murder, sadly you wanted him for murder when he was murdered which confused me. I pulled you into a sit and told you that I just talked to you as well as you have been talked to previously by Madx, unfortunately you were harassing Mr. Printscreen and I felt with the prior warning from staff as well as the sits you were in that I would have to be giving you a 3d break for it. You kept still trying to tell me that he's the one breaking rules not you and you left him alone. I sadly believe leaving him alone doesn't mean hang outside his base waiting until just after 20 minutes to annoy him again. If there was a incident then a few hours later another one its more understanding. Sadly to say I think with what you said and I quote "It's pretty understandable that this printscreen fellow was insanely upset and that he was friends with this staff member but this is entirely unreasonable, especially since said warrant happened an insane amount of time after the original sit (35+ mins)." That quote I feel that I hear it every time that someone feels they were unjust that someone had to be someone's friend or someone. You were talked to multiple times about this and reading your post I feel that you still feel nothing was wrong on your part. If someone is telling you to leave someone alone I feel I would do everything in my power to try to avoid that person as much as possible, not hang around them or their base and waiting till they do something wrong or get arrested that to me doesn't sit right with me. I feel if you would have owned up to what you did I would be a little less harsh on the punishment the way your actions were during the sits as well as how your forum is wrote I sadly see issues that I was hoping that you would be a little more apologetic about instead of felt u been wronged. Sadly this will be a 

-1 FROM ME AND NANCY

 

 

https://imgur.com/a/4V9orIf (tried to put in order from first sits/ to warning/ to job switches/ to the camera outside of pd/ to the warrant using said camera outside of Printscreens house/ to the harassment ban)

Edited December 27, 2025 by Steve Harrington
Grammer

[shenzhen automotive]

The first image, 16:17:42, was not a raid, he was shooting at me from in his base. Not only that, this does not qualify as evidence of me raiding him, as you specified in your post. However, recall that around this time was when you gave me the "verbal warning to stop harassing him", as you've put it. Mind you that my sits were for him coming back and killing 15+ people immediately after being raided, his report was only for me coming back one additional time within a 20 minute window. If you wanna defend that as "being harassed" go ahead but that's pretty insane.

 

16:58:32 was when I set up the camera. This is nearly 40 minutes after. You can see that, immediately after he kidnapped someone I ordered the warrant. This is not harassment, this is clearly the first warrantable thing I saw. Again, after 40 minutes. This is absolutely, 100% regular roleplay. I'm not going to sit somewhere and just twiddle my thumbs instead of being outside some guy's base because he feels harassed, if you wanted that you should've said something.

 

"You only hung around the pd area mainly that corner where print Screens base was, the only things you were doing was running around his area starring at his doors, suiciding after a while then coming back" you're allowed to do this, if he has a problem with it he can move away from the PD.

 

None of the screenshots you provided or anything you've stated enforce any harassment on my part to him after this second to last sit other than the camera, you can clearly see from your screenshot that I'm just fucking around with the jobs. So your screenshots directly reinforce the fact that I literally did nothing from 16:17 to 16:58.

 

With all the above in mind, you're essentially stating that you're banning me for setting up a camera, seeing that he kidnapped someone (the first thing I saw) and warranting him for it (all after 40 minutes). I appreciate the honesty on your part but I'm not owning up to it, especially when you're literally stating that the only reason you banned me was for setting up a camera and warranting him.

Edited December 28, 2025 by shenzhen automotive

[HOSS]

Like I said previously, over the span of 2 hours you received 3 verbal warnings regarding harassment of Printscreen. (These are only visible by staff).

 

I actually recall part of this situation while I was RP’ing. I remember standing in-front of Printscreens base fucking around with someone with a swep. You kept pooping on my head and hovering around that area. I killed you atleast once as a bird. 
 

It doesn’t seem like you have any amount of accountability for any type of harassment; and it seems pretty apparent just based on your verbal warnings alone. Not to mention the extra info provided above by my colleagues.

-1 for appeal

 

I think the 3d is reasonable.

 

[shenzhen automotive]

Just now, HOSS said:

Like I said previously, over the span of 2 hours you received 3 verbal warnings regarding harassment of Printscreen. (These are only visible by staff).

 

I actually recall part of this situation while I was RP’ing. I remember standing in-front of Printscreens base fucking around with someone with a swep. You kept pooping on my head and hovering around that area. I killed you atleast once as a bird. 
 

It doesn’t seem like you have any amount of accountability for any type of harassment; and it seems pretty apparent just based on your verbal warnings alone. Not to mention the extra info provided above by my colleagues.

-1 for appeal

 

I think the 3d is reasonable.

 

His base is in front of the PD. This is the most populous area in the server. Why would I go to a random corner of the map to fuck around with sweps? Using a swep in a crowded area is not harassment, if he has a problem with it he can leave, I'm not going to simply leave the server because someone feels harassed that I'm doing something in front of the PD.

[HOSS]

1 minute ago, shenzhen automotive said:

His base is in front of the PD. This is the most populous area in the server. Why would I go to a random corner of the map to fuck around with sweps? Using a swep in a crowded area is not harassment, if he has a problem with it he can leave, I'm not going to simply leave the server because someone feels harassed that I'm doing something in front of the PD.

Re-read what I said. I don’t think you understand what I wrote.

[shenzhen automotive]

32 minutes ago, HOSS said:

Re-read what I said. I don’t think you understand what I wrote.

I completely understand what you wrote. You nor anyone else has explained how putting up a camera and wanting someone for kidnapping after 40 minutes of not doing anything even remotely harassing is harassment.

 

Do you really think for those 40 minutes I was just waiting around for him to fuck up? I obviously still interacted with other people and did many other things, including becoming mayor and other PD positions. Calling this "harassment" is an insanely far fetched allegation. Just because he's upset doesn't mean that he's invincible from anything that I do from that point into the future, and that the minute I retaliate against him (warrant him for kidnapping someone) I should be banned.

 

What should have been a good amount of time for me to wait, if you really think this is harassment? Because the staff member above told me 30 minutes.

Edited December 28, 2025 by shenzhen automotive