staff report on kkstoner and f_ for believing themselves to be above the message of the day since they are staff

[Gerald]

On 4/29/2025 at 10:48 AM, F___ said:

The rule is still you're not allowed to mic spam as non hobo and there's no idea of changing that anytime soon but if someone is breaking a minor rule that effects no one I'm not going to be the one to stomp on their parade and enforce the rule, this has always been my stance towards these rules because at the end of the day this is a game and you're supposed to have fun in games.

This message right here I love and agree with almost completely Yes should further action been taken after the first sit yes but at the same time I agree if there is sub 40 people on the game and a dude is just sitting in his base playing music through his mic whatever ( perhaps you didn't see the first sit maybe you had just gotten on) but after you also telling him to stop multiple times in staff chat and then multiple sits being made and him continuing to do it that's the issue I see here the fact that even after one sit ( that he refused to go to) still continues to mic spam especially when someone has to rp with you to do there job in this case (master stalker) they literally have to get close to you so I think my decision here is 

-1 for any punishment against F___

+For Strike/Punishment for KKStoner

Edited April 30, 2025 by Gerald

[Community Removal]

51 minutes ago, Opila Bird said:

Which is exactly why its so bad that you kept micspamming, avoiding being stopped because you are staff. 

 

So you broke a rule but because you dont like the people reporting that means they are the ones causing an issue here?



There has been an idea spreading more and more during the time that ive been admin, and im confused where it is coming from. Just because someone makes a report on a player they dislike does NOT mean that you can ignore the rule break or be more lenient with the punishing. As a staff having the mentality of "I won't stop breaking this rule/ punish myself for it because the only one who cares is someone who is known to dislike me" is only going to cause more issues, make these players dislike you more, and see you as more biased. All of this would have never happened if you simply stopped breaking the rules when you were first asked.

The only people who cared about it was agro and jake,  you are treating it like i was massrdming, i was micspamming music at a moderate volume and “building”on a sidewalk, there were like 3 other staff on at the time to take the sits but agro would instantly claim the ones made by his party member (which im pretty sure is also frowned upon) before giving a chance for other staff to take it, like this is obvious foul play. Actually now that I mention it agro and jake were watching me place my dupes before the sit was even made and he insta claimed it. The idea that “oh since someone reported it now we have to do something about it” was loopholed through and through to target me (which is literally admitted in this report) like look im  owning what i did and im not sorry for having  harmless fun and im not sorry for not letting agro walk all over me

Edited April 30, 2025 by KKStoner

[Agro]

2 hours ago, Blue. said:

Imma be real, based off what everyone has said only you and jake had issues with it. Did other users also make sits about it? Being in a popular area shouldn't matter if someone is micspamming. If you/jake had issues with it that should be made clear, saying it was because they were in popular areas is silly. Micspamming is handled if someone specifically has an issue with it, so that would have to be the case here.

The whole building thing DID feel petty though. Jake made the sit, you claimed the sit. I don't think other staff would have had issues with someone showing off their car dupes in the side of that spot(at least i hope not), none of the dupes were being down more than some seconds worth of time, and it does feel silly to go after them for it. You and jake being friends shouldn't be completely ignored in this scenario.

I'm pretty sure I said something along the lines about Jake having a problem with it and if I didn't I'd think this report would show there was a problem. It may be petty but is a rulebreak whether you like it or not, Jake did make sits and I let them stay up most the time for KKStoner to take them himselves but after I figured that he wouldn't I just claimed it. I truly did not care about him micspamming or building all that much but someone did (Jake), Me and Jake may be friend but that did not effect this scenario one bit because nothing I said was wrong or a lie.

 

2 hours ago, Blue. said:

This feels excessive. There is an understandable level of frustration to be had about having the fun ruined. The way that KKStoner handled the situation was not correct, and it should have been handled differently - even if they felt they were being singled out. Resorting to insulting people isn't really a great example either.

Not an insult, just how I personally feel about him in this scenario.
 

 

2 hours ago, Blue. said:

Having been able to gather information on this and learn mutliple sides of the story, I can't say that KKStoner shouldn't be given a strike, but understanding their frustration, I can have a level of sympathy to their situation. KKStoner may have not handled the situation proper, in return making it more problematic for everyone, but this whole micspamming thing is something I can attest to only being enforced when people feel like it. Staff and regulars alike have micspammed without issue or so much as a peep from anyone about it, and its been a fun thing most people do. I'm a well known hobo enthusiast so people frequently have me muted for micspamming. In the end it's that easy to solve the problem, just client side mute. I do think going to these lengths comes off as aggressive, and there is definitely some beef going on between stoner and agro/jake. I definitely think this should be kept in mind when it comes to concluding this situation.

I do not care for KKStoner and I do not have any problems with him.

[Agro]

2 hours ago, KKStoner said:

I feel like staff should not be in a position to use their powers for the sake of pissing other people off, i think any ounce of critical thinking will show that agro and jake were doing this purely to fuck with me even if it was within the rules on their end. And yeah i did not handle it well and i never denied that but im not gonna give up my dignity for this toxic shithead to walk all over me because I wanted to have harmless fun one night at 2 am. I will take the strike but i think agro who has many demotions under his belt now should know that using your position to target and harass other members is an even worse look than refusing to go to a sit as staff. You have disliked me from the moment i talked to you which is fine, but being in a place of power now and using it to put me down further is disgusting

You're silly, I did not use my position to piss you off, I used my power correctly and told you to stop breaking the rules and gave you many chances (wouldn't be able to do anything in the first place because you are moderator). An ounce of critical thinking would not show us doing this purely to fuck with you because Jake or I did not go out of our way to target you and follow you the entire time, also admitting it is within the rules to "be fucked with" is also just silly because you are just admitting to breaking rules but not going to follow through because personal disliking. Calling me a toxic shithead for walking all over you when you got reported is just unnecessary. My background does not matter in this situation at all, I never used my position to target and or harass others, I literally claimed a sit and told you to stop but you are delusional and think I have some random problems with you or disliking. I did not dislike you from the start, I liked talking to you, and you randomly stopped replying (which does not matter here) so I don't know where you got that information from. I might be in a place of power but I never used it to put you down, you just broke rules and decided not to comply, but its fine believe what you wanna believe.

[Agro]

59 minutes ago, KKStoner said:

The only people who cared about it was agro and jake,  you are treating it like i was massrdming, i was micspamming music at a moderate volume and “building”on a sidewalk, there were like 3 other staff on at the time to take the sits but agro would instantly claim the ones made by his party member (which im pretty sure is also frowned upon) before giving a chance for other staff to take it, like this is obvious foul play. Actually now that I mention it agro and jake were watching me place my dupes before the sit was even made and he insta claimed it. The idea that “oh since someone reported it now we have to do something about it” was loopholed through and through to target me (which is literally admitted in this report) like look im  owning what i did and im not sorry for having  harmless fun and im not sorry for not letting agro walk all over me

This isn't being treated like MRDM, this is being treated the way it is because the way you decided to act. There was other staff members and I let the sits stay up long enough for you to read it and or others and after I figured no one was going to claim it I decided too. You still think I targeted you which is still silly.

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2 hours ago, Agro said:

This isn't being treated like MRDM, this is being treated the way it is because the way you decided to act. There was other staff members and I let the sits stay up long enough for you to read it and or others and after I figured no one was going to claim it I decided too. You still think I targeted you which is still silly.

In my clip the timer for the sit was barely crossing a quarter of the way through (this was already like 15 seconds into the sit by the time i started recording) so what do you mean you let the sit stay up for someone else to take it, and in jakes clip it was about 20 seconds the sit was up for you to claim it, that just doesnt seem like enough time for the other staff to claim the sit, maybe if you waited like a whole minute to claim it would be more believable but dude you are just gonna sit and deny everything even though its clearly evident that you were doing all this shit to troll me, which im gonna repeat you literally admit to doing in this report while also denying it in other messages?? “Even if this report is petty and targeted you still broke rules” BUT “you still think i targeted you which is silly”, and yes i do believe your background does matter here because you have a history of harassing people.

 

im going to say it again i am not even arguing for a reduction on my punishment ill accept a strike. Im arguing that this was clear drama fishing and bias against me and it should not be swept under the rug, its honestly disgusting that theres some staff on the team who will throw out or deny clear harassment just because of how the other person reacted to it

Edited April 30, 2025 by KKStoner

[Agro]

24 minutes ago, KKStoner said:

In my clip the timer for the sit was barely crossing a quarter of the way through (this was already like 15 seconds into the sit by the time i started recording) so what do you mean you let the sit stay up for someone else to take it, and in jakes clip it was about 20 seconds the sit was up for you to claim it, that just doesnt seem like enough time for the other staff to claim the sit, maybe if you waited like a whole minute to claim it would be more believable but dude you are just gonna sit and deny everything even though its clearly evident that you were doing all this shit to troll me, which im gonna repeat you literally admit to doing in this report while also denying it in other messages?? “Even if this report is petty and targeted you still broke rules” BUT “you still think i targeted you which is silly”, and yes i do believe your background does matter here because you have a history of harassing people.

 

im going to say it again i am not even arguing for a reduction on my punishment ill accept a strike. Im arguing that this was clear drama fishing and bias against me and it should not be swept under the rug, its honestly disgusting that theres some staff on the team who will throw out or deny clear harassment just because of how the other person reacted to it

I am not arguing on forums. Discord DMs are open for you.

[Agro]

35 minutes ago, KKStoner said:

“Even if this report is petty and targeted you still broke rules” BUT “you still think i targeted you which is silly”,

Also I was using YOUR words for the petty and targeted thing btw 

[Henchy]

This has been up for a while, and I believe staff have reached an agreement of this situation

 

ACCEPTED

KKStoner will receive a verbal for Mic-spamming and a strike.