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20 minutes ago, bugman said:

If you are saying its cyclical then the cycle lasts literally forever as consistent basing has been down for more than 2 years now.

I wasn't talking about basing in the first part of my post. I said active school year = lower player count. That's been true for as long as I've been on TitsRP. Everything else you typed I agree with. I made by post just to say that basing/raiding meta issues do not have a significant impact on player count issues (for the most part)

 

22 minutes ago, bugman said:

They then either log on every few days to weeks so they can keep CC items

Oof. Now this, I take a little personally because of how true it is xD

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4 hours ago, Makoto said:

Maybe (just maybe) a lot of players don't find basing fun anymore? I know a lot of people (myself included) that straight up do not base. There's a lot more to do on the server than base. Does the server even revolve around basing? I'm pretty sure that the Mayor and cops are the new main focal point of activity. Hell, you ask the cp mains, they'll tell you that playing cp earns the most money outside of basing.

 

Most of these basing threads (and the aftermath) follow a loop: The basing meta is broken. -> Players propose changes to the basing meta. -> The proposed changes get largely shut down by the hardcore basers who benefit the most from the current meta. -> Almost nothing changes -> Players stop basing and explore other activities on the server. -> The newer players who actually want to base notice that no one really bases anymore (You are here) -> The basing meta is broken.

 

The issues with basing have festered for years, but the server population has remained stable. It's not basing, trust me. It's a combination of several factors.. The main factor is just the time of year.

Being fair when I was regularly playing if I saw certain people that made basing basically impossible I would rather destroy what I had when I saw them log on than keep basing. There is a point to be had when you'd rather quit doing an activity just by knowing someone specific came on the server. As for the rest of this...it depends on the severity of changes, we got the C4 to not be chucked anymore, C4 has Line Of Sight as well as grenades, C4 has a health bar to it. I mean we nerfed the biggest aspects of raiding over the years but we haven't actually touched the other mechanics like we should have (that being said I'm not saying I 100% agree with all of the changes either just stating the ones that have been changed)

 

I'd also like to point out tho that you're also 100% right on the main changes getting shut down by the basers because that's how it has always went down. 2-3 people propose a change then they get -reped and their suggestion shat on by like the only 8-10 dudes who base/raid and not much does get changed.

 

Also @Terrry No reason just wanted to say hi

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