ban reduction

[DnChops]

In-Game Name

DnChops

Your Steam ID

76561199147372528

Why were you banned or warned?

mrdm

no evidence of anything as I had closed gmod so dont even have console logs.

Why should you be unwarned/unbanned?

Would like a my ban to be reduced to a day or my items that will become expired from mp be refunded into my account once unbanned. I had accepted my ban as it was a honest mistake and just didn't want to argue about it. I would never intentionally mrdm but this was a mistake. It was supposed to be a 1 day but it was been increased due to "7 warnings". The mod LawyerDoge had told me that i had 7 warnings within like 3 days or some thing like that but I had only had 3 since my unban which was a month long ban. I had checked my warnings during this situation and had told him I had only had 3 since my unban. All prior warnings where a month or more ago. I would like to include that MANY of these rdm warns where because I did not know rules or it was a misunderstanding. I would never rdm intentionally as I realise that it ruins the game for people and just overall adds a bad addition to the community. He had told me I was getting a 3 day Ban which I had said was fine and that I had accepted that. I had then nicely asked him if he would wait a minute so that I am able to remove my listings from MP. I was able to remove a couple listings but there was still a nice amount in the 15 million range. I was appreciate it so much if my items where to be able to get refunded once i come off my unban or my ban to be reduced. I would like to say once again that I would never intentionally mrdm or rdm as I am a firm believer that it ruins the game and makes the community unfun for other players. I would be very delighted if one of these would be able to happen but once again I am very remorseful for my actions even if I did not know the rules in the situation that had gotten me banned.

Who warned/banned you?

LawyerDoge

How long were you warned or banned for?

1 day extended 3 day

Edited May 23, 2023 by DnChops

[Gaben Newell]

Here is the situation.

A player named Allll reported DnChops for killing multiple people in front of the Mayor's Office as a Bounty Hunter. I can testify to that because I watched the whole situation happen. When I asked DnChops why he did that he said that since he had a hit against me he could kill any of the cops in his way to get to me because I was his target. I asked for a Moderator response in this situation before I grabbed DnChops and the Moderator I asked stated this situation was a MRDM situation. The player that reported him and me both decided that he has been warned about RDM before, had multiple warnings, and just RECENTLY CAME OFF A BAN.

Conclusion

 

We need to keep the 3 day ban on him due to the fact he did just get off a ban and should have read the rules and/or asked a staff member if he could have done what he did before he did it. I am sorry but you were banned for awhile and you even admitted that what you did was wrong. -1 keep the ban it's only 3 days.

[DnChops]

"he did that he said that since he had a hit against me he could kill any of the cops in his way to get to me because I was his target." Have you got any proof of this?

I had never said this and never recall saying this. Infact i remember saying something after the situation about not knowing if i was able to kill pd or not as their purpose it to enforce the law and to protect the mayor as I had a hit on him.

Please provide screenshots of "he did that he said that since he had a hit against me he could kill any of the cops in his way to get to me because I was his target." before putting words in my mouth mate.

 

"you were banned for awhile"

Completely unrelated to this.

 

"you even admitted that what you did was wrong"

exactly mate, I honestly did not know that i needed to advert pd raid if i had a hit on the mayor while the mayor was inside of pd untill the mod in taking the sit had explained . I had realised what i had done is wrong after being explained to. I had agreed with you that what i had done was wrong after you had explained to me that i need to advert pd raid to kill any pd or to kill mayor even with a hit on him while he is inside pd.

 "you even admitted" Whats with this anyways mate? Whats with the passive aggressiveness? Is having remorse and accepting that I had done something wrong bad? Am i not supposed to admit to my faults and wrong doings even when they are mistakes?

 

I honestly am not bothered about the ban length that much but i still do disagree that a 3 day ban for rdm when i didnt know the rules for the situation is unjust. it's just that i had agreed with you, not argued with you a single time and had even asked very politely and nicely if you could wait a minute,  AS I KNEW THAT I WAS IN THE WRONG AND WAS ACCEPTING IT, so that i could remove my listings from mp. Many of the titsrp players that i have interacted with would be able to agree that they have not seen me give one ounce of respect to the MAJORITY of the community. I have honestly changed after coming back from my 30 day ban.

 

"should have read the rules"

I have read the rules. I do not believe that there is anything specific about having a hit on the mayor and what to do and what not to do.

You cannot honestly expect a player that has been playing gmod for about 2 months to know every single rules and aspect of garrys mod mate.

 

This is clearly a tmod and someone else needs to take over the responses on my ban reduction/appeal. You do not know how moderation works. You think that someone accepting that they have made a mistake is a bad thing. I had given you respect in the sit and you had not returned any, even responding to me in a passive aggressive manor so i will obviously not return any to you in this ban reduction/appeal. And also, from my opinion atleast, I whole heartedly do not believe that a previous ban that had absolutely 0 relation to the reasoning of this ban is at all relevant or grounds for an increased ban/punishment.

 

You had also not given further statement about the "7 warnings" either which was your main grounds of extended punishment

 

"should have read the rules and/or asked a staff member if he could have done what he did before he did it"

MANY staff members do not respond to any moderation questions. We are told to make a sit just for a question and then having to wait a further 30 minutes or the sit not being taken at all.

 

"Bounty Hunter"

I was not a bounty hunter, i was a hitman.

"I can testify to that because I watched the whole situation happen."

You can testify to that even when i was a hitman and not a bounty hunter? Im pretty sure that Admin logs would be able to agree with me on that one mate.

Edited May 23, 2023 by DnChops

[Succ The Zucc]

The real question is, did you have to raid the PD to get to your target? Yes. Then you had to advert PD Raid the only way you don't advert PD Raid is on 2 occasions. During Revolt, and during your time as Mayor's Assassin.

 

Now, your ban is for MassRDM. Which...technically you did do, but this could be better described as FailRP/MassRDM|Failure to advert PD Raid. Which would better describe your situation. That being said as I personally would disagree with the ban being issued as it's more of a FailRP situation rather than an intentional MassRDM he is allowed to make a 3 day ban if he would like to. 

 

I am +1 on changing the ban reason to better describe what you did.

 

Neutral/heavily leaning to a +1 for a change in punishment to a warn instead of a ban. 

[kiezuh]

Howdy chops.

I was one of the moderators that helped lawyer with this sit. Whilst helping him i had read over logs and seen that you had killed multiple innocent players while trying to complete this hit.
Judging by your past history and knowledge on and of the server you should know better than to just open fire in congested areas such as pd.

I am going to -1  this appeal.
 

[DnChops]

I 100% agree with you @Succ The Zucc. I firmly believe A 3 day ban for something that I have never been warned about before or have never done before is not the right punishment.

@kiezuhHis only grounds for extended punishment / a ban at all was that i have had 7 warnings completely unrelated to this. You cannot call this rdm as i had rp reason which made it not random. I 100% agree with what succ the zucc had said.

 

Would just like to say I am not pushing for a full ban removal which I do think would be the best option as this is quite unfair as I have no other warnings about this situation, but I would be very grateful even with a reduction to one day.

Edited May 24, 2023 by DnChops

[kiezuh]

Howdy chops, you only received a 3 day ban for MRDM 

 

Mass RDM: Intentional or not can default to a one week ban. Use your best judgement here. (ex: Does not advert PD raid and kills 3+ players). 
 

lawyer did not even ban you for full extent time so he gave you leeway putting into conderation your 10 bans and 8 warns 6 of those warns being for RDM.

[DnChops]

mate excuse my french but i dont give 2 fucks ab the ban i just care ab my items. I gave him respect during that sit n he coulkdnt even wait 30 seconds so i could remove my mp l;istings. losing my items on mp would be enough punishment for this mate.
rdm would be raiding pd without a reason or adverting. thats rdm. i had a rp reason just i didnt know i needed to advert pd raid
@kiezuhnone of those warnings are related to this in the slightest bit. I had a hit on mayor, went inside and killed anyone that i saw in pd as i thought i did not need to advert pd as i have seen other people do that before on different servers as hitman. I have never had a warning for killing more than one person. I have never intentionally rdmed someone. I can admit that I have rdmed but not once intentionally.

Edited May 24, 2023 by DnChops

[DnChops]

mate what im wondering is why that other guy hasnt been banned for 3 days aswell then. dont even think he got a warning. i was inside pd and some random person came inside and killed 4 people. 

[Guest]

Hey Chops, you seem to be a bit of a troublemaker, i advise you to give the !rules a nice read and whenever you have any sort of doubt just ask the staff members online!

 

Quite unrelated, but not too long ago you were killing people for just stepping over your couch which was in the middle of fountain, i had to tell you that you can't do that to save you from being in a bunch of sits that thankfully did not end up existing

 

On the topic of your ban appeal i believe it is valid what you got banned for, you gotta /advert PD Raid if you want to kill anyone inside pd (unless its your hit/bounty) but either way, i would like to strike a deal with you, if you promise to read the rules carefully, learn how to not get in trouble and don't get warned/banned for two weeks or so i would be more than willing to give you a full unban

 

+1 for full unban if you promise to be a good boi

 

-1 if you are not willing to change

Edited May 24, 2023 by Guest