Report on Fuel McStubbins

[Tass]

7 minutes ago, koda said:

I personally think that Fuel did nothing wrong with jailing someone not in RP land, you definitely were not involved nor effected by the situation. -1

I would like you to reread the staff guidelines and to know that staff should be following those guidelines. No staff should be using any sort of staff ability for their own or anyone elses amusement. Doesn't matter if I was affected. Staff are supposed to uphold these guidelines set for them.

[FK_BOOLIN]

Hi, me saying it’s ok with me is not out of the question good sir! If you were to kill your friend / rdm him he should have to report you because you broke a rule still? Just like as stated in the staff guidelines which you seem to be well acquainted to, we don’t have to punish somebody if the players who are the victim of it don’t report it or don’t want the player to be punished! 
 

Fuel did this in a controlled environment and if I really wanted to make a report on him I can! But since it was just a simple joke of stinky tmod then I could care less! No harm no foul!

 

oh yeah I forgot -1 

Edited January 23, 2021 by FK_BOOLIN

[Tass]

5 minutes ago, FK_BOOLIN said:

Hi me saying it’s ok with me is not out of the question good sir! If you were to kill your friend / rdm him he should have to report you because you broke a rule still? Just like as stated in the staff guidelines which you seem to be will acquainted to we don’t have to punish somebody if the players who are the victim of it don’t report it or don’t want the player to be punished! 
 

Fuel did this in a controlled environment and if I really wanted to make a report on him I can! But since it was just a simple joke of stinky tmod then I could care less! No harm no foul!

Like I have said also that a talking to and as the great moderator Abstergo McStubbins said "a slap on fuel's bald head" for him nor any staff to use staff tools for their own amusement is exactly what I would like. There have been many bans where people have not even reported them. If you wanted to make a sit on his abuse of power go ahead... BUT I am simply reporting that he is not following the staff guidelines as every staff agrees to follow when they sign up to be a staff member of this server. 

Edited January 23, 2021 by Tass

[koda]

8 minutes ago, Tass said:

Like I have said also that a talking to and as the great moderator Abstergo McStubbins said "a slap on fuel's bald head" for him nor any staff to use staff tools for their own amusement is exactly what I would like. There have been many bans where people have not even reported them. If you wanted to make a sit on his abuse of power go ahead... BUT I am simply reporting that he is not following the staff guidelines as every staff agrees to follow when they sign up to be a staff member of this server. 

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[Tass]

1 minute ago, koda said:

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"if you do it as a one off thing" This was his one off thing and if continues it could give a bad image to players.  I feel like you are simply glossing over what I am asking, all I am asking is for a "slap on fuel's bald head" worded by Abstergo and a talking to no longer use staff tools for his own amusement. I am not asking for fuel to be removed from community, demoted, nor warned.

[koda]

Why would he need his head slapped when it was already said it was allowed by a higher up.

[FK_BOOLIN]

Hi once again! This will be my last response as I don’t want to create a even worse back and fourth. You are correct about some bans being done without a report. But most bans that are done like that are for important / extreme rule breaks. For instance someone make a a accusation of somebody being a let’s call it a “tickeler”. We would bring them to a sit and either perm ban them or warn them. This works the same for other massive rule breaks like Mrdm. But if it’s something like a single rdm we don’t go around asking to many questions since it might have some more context to it. The most we ever do is spectate them in order to see if their pulling anything. But if the player doesn’t report that single rdm then it doesn’t matter. It’s a matter of choosing how severe it is and if it can cause harm to the player base. This is extremely low on the severity spectrum and is actually very petty. If I feel like as a player that I was violated by staff abuse then I would make a report since I am the sole victim in this. I get you want to be proactive and everything but you could have always pmed fuel to not do stuff like that as that’s the most punishment he should deserve.

Edited January 23, 2021 by FK_BOOLIN

[Tass]

2 minutes ago, koda said:

Why would he need his head slapped when it was already said it was allowed by a higher up.

It was not exactly stated it was "allowed" if I'm correct the screenshot stated that it was fine for a "one off thing"... this was his one of thing and if he continues then it could as the higher up said himself "a bad image for players."

 

3 minutes ago, FK_BOOLIN said:

Hi once again! This will be my last response as I don’t want to create a even worse back and fourth. You are correct about some bans being done without a report. But most bans that are done like that are for important / extreme rule breaks. For instance someone make a a accusation of somebody being a let’s call it a “tickeler”. We would bring them to a sit and either perm ban them or warn them. This works the same for other massive rule breaks like Mrdm. But if it’s something like a single rdm we don’t go around asking to many questions since it might have some more context to it. The most we ever do is spectate them in order to see if their pulling anything. But if the player doesn’t report that single rdm then it doesn’t matter. It’s a matter of choosing how severe it is and if it can cause harm to the player base. This is extremely low on the severity spectrum and is actually very petty. If I feel like as a player that I was violated by staff abuse then I would make a report since I am the sole victim in this. I get you want to be proactive and everything but you could have always ones fuel to not do stuff like that.  

This could have been easily dealt with ingame with him just being told not to do it again but an admin told me to make a report on the forums so I did just that. The staff guidelines are put in place to give the staff team a basis on how to actually staff. Your opinion on this being "very petty" could also be someone who reports for ARDM for someone shooting them once and running away, petty in a way but still against the rules.

[FK_BOOLIN]

Keyword “them” if they felt like a violation was done to them then they go ahead and make a sit. But if a player who had nothing to do with it reports it he might not know if there is some hidden context to it for example they are both friends. That’s why you almost never see sits / reports being made like that.

This doesn’t how ever work on some situations for instance Mrdm. If a player tells us to spectate someone we go ahead and do it to make sure or we just check logs. Players sometimes do this and it helps us identify any main problems without having to be on the field.

p.s very sorry for breaking that last response thing but I really needed to say something!

Edited January 23, 2021 by FK_BOOLIN

[Tass]

Just now, FK_BOOLIN said:

Keyword “them” if they felt like they felt like a violation was done to them then they go ahead. But if a player who had nothing to do with it reports it he might not know if there is some hidden context to it for example they are both friends. That’s why you almost never see sits / reports being made like that.

 

p.s very sorry for breaking that last response thing but I really needed to say something!

The hidden context can matter but in the end Fuel did use a staff tool for his own amusement. Whether that amusement was harmful to others or not it was for his own amusement. Even with the words of Kilobyte the admin from a screenshot that Koda posted, "if its a one of thing i don't see a problem with it" so this would be Fuel's "one of" thing and there wouldn't be a problem with it but future uses of staffing tools for his own or others amusement could, again by the words of an admin, "give a bad image to players". I am simply just stating that Fuel should be told not to do it again that is all.