Issues with Mayor/dictator laws

[Nobody (3)]

Let me ask everyone a question: Do you think J-Walking laws or any other law that mayors normally put to be a dictator should be allowed? The only real reason it could be allowed is because the reason for it being added is because of "Cars are driving around the streets", but in reality there are no cars. If my memory is good and well, then cars are 75k each, more than a player's starting cash which is 50k, so new player's can't buy it, and anyone who's played more than a week to get a few hundred thousand already has a master sword and maybe a spiderman gun to get around, making cars completely useless. Since we've established that cars are basically useless, the J-Walking is illegal law is unreasonable and stupid.
Now for Weapons/Sweps are AOS/fineable. There's no reason for this, if someone holds out a gun it's because they're ready to defend themself from an rdm'er. And if they're an rdm'er, then arrest them for murdering someone, because murder is already a default illegal activity. It's simple to rule this out because it just isn't reasonable, and is dumb.
Let's now talk about PD is KOS/AOS. If someone were to PD raid, they'd do it outside, not inside. this is literally a rule. By default, past second doors of the PD is AOS, so you can arrest anyone for being back there if you believe they have evil intentions by being there. By making the PD KOS/AOS, then you make it impossible for new players to get armor so they don't die by a cop or cc in crossfire, and you make it impossible for someone to buy a civilian phone to call the cops because people are doing something illegal, or maybe they themself have been kidnapped and they need to call the cops. All of this should show you the laws are stupid and unreasonable.

 

Below, the lines numbered are rules that the laws above are affected by, except for #2 in the list.

 

1. Make your laws something that your officers can enforce, you cannot make rules that allow players/CP to kill each other

 

2. Your laws must follow some sort of RP guidelines. Making them stupid will result in you being demoted and or kicked. No one likes a dumb mayor.

 

3. Laws can not target an individual group, class, job, or person. Make your laws general, and make them affect the entire town. You can restrict areas of the map, but not force people to be there.

 

Now, let me show you another law that could be allowed since it follows all 3 above. "Everyone is AOS, there is an outbreak of CoronaVirus, you are needed in PD Cells for virus checks." Since the reasoning of everyone being AOS is because of an outbreak of Coronavirus, that makes it fit in with RP, since coronavirus can be very easily spread, because when you cough anyone within a few steps of you should now be infected, so stand in the fountain and the streets will be infected in minutes. Smoke, one of the only ones with a gas mask can go out, fully protected, to arrest anyone on the streets that may have corona, so cops can enforce it. Since it's everyone who we're concerned about, it's not targeting an individual group, and instead is targeting everyone on the streets since it's supposedly infected. 

 

There is one rule I didn't put anywhere above, it's this:

 

Your laws must not be so harsh where it makes other players leave the server. They will vote you as an unfair Mayor in which you will be demoted.

 

Both J-Walking and the law I've come up with break this rule. someone new to the server doesn't know the laws, so they start walking along the roads. a cop comes up and fines them for j-walking, the new player says it's rda since they think there are no laws like that, and they can't check it cause they don't know !laws exists. so they continue walking on the road to their destination. another cop comes up and fines them for j-walking, they decline the fine and usually go to jail for 5 whole minutes because it's normally a 5k fine. They rage quit. They're not about to spend 5 minutes for walking in the road where the only danger is cops or civilians shooting them in crossfire, NOT because of cars. Now for the Everyone is AOS, someone gets autowanted randomly because of this law, and they spend 90 seconds in jail after calling a sit that just isn't answered because everyone's aos, it's a law. They go out, and start walking to a house to own. They're arrested once more. although this law is a bit more harsh than j-walking, both of them aren't allowed because they make players leave.
Now I'll talk about a law like "Weapons/sweps are AOS." In this server, with j-walking being a law, there's a lot of cc's and cops that fight because the cops tried to fine the cc. So a gun owner carries a gun to make sure they can protect themselves if someone might shoot them, maybe in crossfire or in self defense. once they start shooting someone in self defense, they're instantly cuffed and fined, then probably immediately killed by the person who was shooting them before now that they're cuffed and helpless. When fined, they may leave because they were fined for basically self defense. Then maybe the person who was shooting them gets cuffed too and fined for their weapon and killing someone. It's a lose for both of them, and a win for the strict cops.

 

 

Hello people who only read this part cause it's short.

 

Now tell me if I made sense with this post, or call me a retard for posting this.

I didn't completely re-read everything, so I may have repeated something or had bad grammar in some spots.

[Nobody (3)]

Just now, Spooky Autism Spinnerer said:

Shut the fuck up retard

[Tene]

not every arrest is going to be taken like a court, if weapons / sweps OUT are aos then dont have that shit out? its really not hard seeing as you're using the rule "laws cant be so harsh that players leave"

if a guy is walking down the street with an AK out (im english so idk how this shit work in america) is that not illegal? are the laws too tough there? is it that hard to walk down the street with no guns out in america, + most of the swep parts of these laws are for shit like slappers, which deal damage, and masterswords, which are used to avoid arrest, bludgeons, which are used to kidnap, kiss sweps, which are used to slap etc etc.

The coronavirus thing is usually a lockdown. They call lockdown, and have a law stating users outside during this lockdown will be arrested on sight, users inside their home are safe. This is RP, it doesn't make people quit the server, stand inside a building for 2 minutes. These are literally the most rp this server gets, and u dislike it? titsrp (altho it might seem like it) isnt a all loli model server, or isnt meant to be (i think), and just because people are roleplaying, or making laws that entertain the civil protection jobs, they are bad and should be banned from being a law? These mayors are the ones that make new users switch to police job, to gain quick cash, even if its not alot, and roleplay. The part that probably makes them want to leave is when they go to handcuff someone, the player just walks backwards so it cancels the handcuff, and then double pumps them with their 45 hp loli model.

The j-walking part, is once again, rp. Even though not alot of users use the vehicles since their downgrade, it's still a roleplay scenario, that people shouldnt be mindlessly walking on the road when people could be driving down it. Even when people do drive down the road, its not anything like what we would actually do, instead of moving onto the sidewalk, which is where you're supposed to be, people on tits just stay in the road, get hit by the car which does like 5 damage, yell at the driver and then walk slightly away from the car.

It's the players choice to leave the server, and the Mayors job to ensure that police on the server are enjoying their time and staying a member of the force.

57 minutes ago, Nobody (3) said:

Let me ask everyone a question: Do you think J-Walking laws or any other law that mayors normally put to be a dictator should be allowed? The only real reason it could be allowed is because the reason for it being added is because of "Cars are driving around the streets", but in reality there are no cars. If my memory is good and well, then cars are 75k each, more than a player's starting cash which is 50k, so new player's can't buy it, and anyone who's played more than a week to get a few hundred thousand already has a master sword and maybe a spiderman gun to get around, making cars completely useless. 

 

 

Is that the community's fault tho? Not buying cars? Maybe these masterswords and spiderman sweps shouldnt be so easy to obtain, seeing that you're saying they're more overpowered than a 75,000$ vehicle and 10 can be bought cheaper than that (i think). Maybe we should nerf masterswords and spiderman sweps so vehicles are used more!!!?!?! Or just do what we normally do and buff the thing and make the server more dumb!
I also think vehicles can be faster than spiderman sweps if no one was on the street, ie end of indust tunnel to end of suburbs tunnel. Masterswords, nah.

 

57 minutes ago, Nobody (3) said:

Now for Weapons/Sweps are AOS/fineable. There's no reason for this, if someone holds out a gun it's because they're ready to defend themself from an rdm'er. And if they're an rdm'er, then arrest them for murdering someone, because murder is already a default illegal activity. It's simple to rule this out because it just isn't reasonable, and is dumb.

Uhh what. Either you're going down the wrong streets or you're lying. People hold guns out for literally no reason sometimes. Other times they will hold their gun out and jwalk, incase a cop cuffs them so they can kill them. They have the intent of killing the police officer. Let's say they are using self defense, if 2 people are on the street fighting. and a cop only sees part of the fight, where one is completely destroying the other, is it not that cops job to stop the fight, or should they let you keep going because they don't know if its self defense or not. CP stands for civil protection (or chpo depending on context), "Civil defense (civil defence in UK English) or civil protection is an effort to protect the citizens of a state"
Nah they should let a citizen die to another citizens hand because they're not sure if its self defense, they'll ask after! 


gonna be honest my brain not working rn cus i was texting FEMALES during this. i most likely repeated myself, or made invalid points with retard claims.

Edited September 10, 2020 by Yourself
retard error #1