Cheetos Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Your Steam Name: Arrow Your in-game name: Officer Cheetos Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:28619661 Why were you warned/banned?: Ok so i was raiding the pd, you know the overlook in the pd you can snipe from - well i got banned for sniping cops who were trying to enter the pd from there. Apparently "cops need to be inside pd to kill them" from what my ban message says. That is utter bullshit and quote me a rule saying this. I've seen countless people doing the same shit and even cops shooting people from there. THATS LIKE FUCKING SAYING COPS CANT SHOOT RAIDERS OUTSIDE THE PD. its not like i was sniping them at the fkin spawn entrance. I shot them right outside the pd door, ANd mass rdm? i killed like 2 cops... from there. utter bullshit of a ban. The tmod went on to say " if you are pd raiding you need to kos everyone " - over and over. That also is not stated in the rules. I can choose if i want to kill people or not. i dont have to. Why should you be unwarned/unbanned? : BEcause its a load of bs, quote me the rule saying they need to be inside the pd to kill them. Why would it be not allowed to fucking shoot a cop trying to get into pd to kill you. Are you kidding? Who warned/banned you and for how long?: Some tmod called hamborgor Evidence: dont rly have I killed like 2 cops, 1 ran in 2x so i killed him, Gabe was next to the pd SO i killed him. If they came back i wouldnt of killed them again due to them being nlred. So idk why this is classed as rdm, The fucking cop ran inside 2x.... I was even killed by a mod raiding a base earlier because i got to close to it. _ pretty much the same fucking distance.. So technically i got banned for basically killing gaben because he was "to far from the pd, and - you can only kill cops who are in side the pd" when this isn't a rule - just checked. How do you know gaben was 2 far from the pd anyway? did he provide evidence, id like to see it. You said i also rdmed the other cop cuffing someone (the one who ran in and out of pd 2x whilst i was shooting at him) - sorry my gun isnt a 1 hit like some op custom classes. y know it takes a bit to kill them and they move a lot when shooting at them. He prob ran out of the pd because there were people assisting in the lobby. So is that how it is. If you're a cop in a pd raid when ur nearly dead you just run outside and be like SAFE ZONE, YOU CAN'T KILL COPS OUTSIDE THE PD. Thats ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succ The Zucc Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Idk about the mass part. However you are not allowed to shoot the people outside of the PD so this was RDM. However this could have easily just been a warn. I’ll be discussing this with the Mod who banned you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheetos Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 rule quote please, Sorry for not knowing about a rule I HAVENT PLAYED ON THE SERVER FOR LITERAL YEARS, i just came back like 4 days ago.. Have raided the pd once since then.. Honestly who gives out a week ban for someone unintentionally breaking a rule they werent aware about. ^ basically what ur saying as soon as a cop runs back outside pd i cant shoot him? ok.. https://gyazo.com/07841d19a82069fcb8f82f5b2f8d3193 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succ The Zucc Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Which is why I agree it could have easily been a warn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quas Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 I was willing to do a warn for this because it could have easily been an accident but sits are heavily based on the attitude of the reported player and i see that same attitude that was in the sit was dragged into the ban appeal. And you obviously didnt get what i was saying about the "Everyone in PD is KOS" thing. What i was getting at was that by your behavior, it seemed like you just used that PD raid as an excuse to kill cops that werent even inside PD or near it for that matter. You said yourself that you intended to raid the PD bank and if that was the case, why would you just sit in a window and kill cops? Looking at death locations, i saw that you killed 2 cops, both of which were across the street a good ways from PD. I didnt ban you for MRDM i banned you for AMRDM. Because of your awful attitude in both the sit and the appeal i dont plan on completely lifting the ban but i will consider lowering it from 7 days to 3 if you can tell me a reason why i should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheetos Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 Like ive said 5 times, the cop i was shootng at ran outside of pd and into pd twice. You are basically saying if a cop goes outside of pd thats now a no kill zone. I'm still wanting a quote that says cops need to be inside pd to kill them. The death locations dont show the complete storry, They arent going to stay still when you are shooting them with a sniper are they? They are going to run around left and righ ttrying to figure out where you are at RESULTING in them being in a totally different location than where you started shooting them at. if this rule of you can only kill cops inside pd not outside actually exists- ive checked rules 2x now i dont see it. Then Sorry for killing gaben, he didn't go into the pd. The 1 other swat i killed though ran into the pd i then shot at him at the entrance as i could still kind of see his player model. he then ran outside - keep in mind people were assisting the raid im pretty sure by then down in the lobbyish area - big table area. He ran outside where he i shot him again, he ran back inside then outside where i then finished him off when he tried arrest someone im pretty sure he thought was shooting at him as i dont think he noticed it was me. My attitude may have been a bit harsh, but if you're saying i shouldn't challenge a rule that YOU say exists when i can not see it anywhere in the rule book is completely power tripping. The rules are there to help gameplay and to inform what is allowed and what is not, - to also keep staff from making rules on the spot.. Sorry for my attitude but a 3 day ban is still stupid for breaking a rule i did not know of - as it isnt in the rules (quote me please) after coming back from like 1-2 years ago of not playing on the server. Keep in mind a moderator shot me for getting to close to their raid, i said rdm? in chat and he said no you were to close. This was about the distance of gabe. So if anything i was going off a mods actions. - You said that you think i was only there to just kill cops, which i wasnt i wanted to try get shipments from pd bank which you mention. I was securing the area for the people who just assited to get up. SO cops didnt shoot them in the back. I then lpd in and it apparently wasn't enough cops. I then died to a cop who guess what sneaked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quas Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Both the gaben and the swat member were pursuing other players outside of PD so it was RDMx2 and it could have been MRDM if i didnt drag you into a sit. But since it seems like it was an accident, even though you were misbehaving in the sit, i will be ACCEPTING this appeal and i will lower the ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheetos Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 No offense but i dont want a lowered ban to 3 days i want no ban, I'd take a warn for gaben. for shooting him a bit to far from pd, But like i said the swat member pursued what i think he though was the guy shooting him. and not it wouldnt of been mass rdm if you didn't intervene as by the time i was in a sit the pd raid was actually over. there were also many other cops in my line os sight at the left of the window which i could have shot if i was there just to kill cops. I didn't though as they were no where near the pd. I wasn't there just to kill people like i said no offense but 3 days i still bullshit. I've tried be polite during this but if you're banning me for killing 1 cop to far from the pd and killing a cop who ran in and out of the pd like 2 -3 times thats still ridiculous. There is no rule stating that cops need to be inside the pd to kill them i've asked you countless times now for any quote resembling what you are saying but you have failed to provide it. IF ANYTHING at a push this was 1 rdm as gaben may have been from YOUR standards to far from the pd. I'm not sure but im pretty sure he shot at the window as well . - may have been a diff cop though. - not making that up u can check dmg logs that i got hit by someone. I've talked about and disproved mostly everything you have countered me with. including why the swat death location wasnt near pd. - he ran that way to cuff someone he though shot him when it was me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succ The Zucc Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I’m closing this thread as it had already been accepted and will be lowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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