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Steam Name: Floppy Richard

ingame name: Floppy Richard

Steam Profile/SteamID: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198084161315/

Why were you banned?: "NLR x2, RDM, Lying in sit, minging" even though the only one of those that are even remotely true is nlr

Why should you be unbanned?: because i wasn't even given a chance to explain my side of the story, as i was trying to talk i was cut off and banned. all i want, is to go back, explain everything i know, and if nothing else, shorten my ban

 

Who banned you and for how long? major spook for 5 days

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You told me that you broke NLR 2 times, which is true. You also told me that the reason you broke NLR was to ask him why he was killing you after the 1st time and that you didn't think you were breaking NLR, which wasn't true because as you can see, you went to him and killed him with a crowbar afterwards.

 

I cut you off because you were blatantly lying to me. I can deal with RESPECT and HONESTY, but NOT LYING to my face

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You told me that you broke NLR 2 times, which is true. You also told me that the reason you broke NLR was to ask him why he was killing you after the 1st time and that you didn't think you were breaking NLR, which wasn't true because as you can see, you went to him and killed him with a crowbar afterwards.

 

I cut you off because you were blatantly lying to me. I can deal with RESPECT and HONESTY, but NOT LYING to my face

 

i was never lying intentionally, i was trying to explain that i was 

1) stalking him so he needed to die for my job to continue, i just wanted to speed up that process (which you never let me get to)

2) get a clear reason as to why noodles killed me, because he wasn't responding in ooc (which should be in the logs)

3) when you were boiling up to me i tried to start from the beginning of my story to clear up inconsistencies, which i might put right now

 

-my stalker target died so i went to move on to my next one

-i go to my target, he takes 1 tik of damage, and kills me

-i got confused so i went to ask him why he killed me, seeing he was far enough away from an NLR zone in my opinion

-while asking i accidentally had my mouse on him, which caused him to kill me again

-i then try to ask him in ooc, but i don't get a response that i could see

-i go back one more time, making sure not to look at him

-he acts like an asshole and not wanting to deal with him i think "my job is going to kill him one way or another might as well get it over with"

-i kill him, forget about nlr, look for my next target, que sit

 

if there is anything else unclear i can clear it up for you

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You told me that you broke NLR 2 times, which is true. You also told me that the reason you broke NLR was to ask him why he was killing you after the 1st time and that you didn't think you were breaking NLR, which wasn't true because as you can see, you went to him and killed him with a crowbar afterwards.

 

I cut you off because you were blatantly lying to me. I can deal with RESPECT and HONESTY, but NOT LYING to my face

 

i was never lying intentionally, i was trying to explain that i was 

1) stalking him so he needed to die for my job to continue, i just wanted to speed up that process (which you never let me get to)

2) get a clear reason as to why noodles killed me, because he wasn't responding in ooc (which should be in the logs)

3) when you were boiling up to me i tried to start from the beginning of my story to clear up inconsistencies, which i might put right now

 

-my stalker target died so i went to move on to my next one

-i go to my target, he takes 1 tik of damage, and kills me

-i got confused so i went to ask him why he killed me, seeing he was far enough away from an NLR zone in my opinion

-while asking i accidentally had my mouse on him, which caused him to kill me again

-i then try to ask him in ooc, but i don't get a response that i could see

-i go back one more time, making sure not to look at him

-he acts like an asshole and not wanting to deal with him i think "my job is going to kill him one way or another might as well get it over with"

-i kill him, forget about nlr, look for my next target, que sit

 

if there is anything else unclear i can clear it up for you

 

I don't see much of an issue with this. The job description explains why he kills you, but you're only playing your job. You did RDM him, though, DO NOT ATTACK PEOPLE unless staring. Crowbarring them to 1 hp and then trying to do it that way is just RDM. This ruins the point of the job. 

I give this a +1 for shorten of the ban, as you were just doing your job.

Edit: 5 days is too much for one RDM.

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Which is Still breaking NLR and Revenge RDM. Which is still a ban in my professional opinion.

 

Accident or not, you should know better not to break NLR multiple times. If you thought he was RDMing you, you could've been the one to call for an admin instead of breaking the rules in this situation.

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Which is Still breaking NLR and Revenge RDM. Which is still a ban in my professional opinion.

 

Accident or not, you should know better not to break NLR multiple times. If you thought he was RDMing you, you could've been the one to call for an admin instead of breaking the rules in this situation.

 

my intention was never revenge rdm, and due to bad experiences with admins, i try to see if i can resolve issues with the person first without admins because they most likely have better cases to deal with rather than me being an idiot, which i admit i am from time to time. but i get riled up easily and do things i probably shouldn't have in hindsight. 

i have a counterpoint for each of my ban reasons

 

NLRx2: i was only technically breaking nlr once, because during the sit you described nlr as a statement that means you don't go back there to continue rp. which you could only count the last time i went back as breaking nlr

 

RRDM: i was never aware that i couldnt play my job like i did, and the fact that the master stalker had a crowbar, brick, and drilldo doesnt make sense in hindsight if he cant use them, and like stated before, it was never intended as revenge, i simply wanted to get the target done and out of the way

 

Lying in sit: due to the order of the conversation, something may have gotten mixed up or lost in translation, i may have been talking about different scenarios than what you were thinking of

 

Minging: when i joined i wanted to become a master stalker and stalk people, it was never my intention to break nlr, it was never my intention to rdm, and it was never my intention to lie

 

i understand if you dont want to unban me, but if you do, i will be eternally grateful.

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