Dolphin Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Your Steam Name: LtDolphin Your ingame name: LtDolphin Your Steam Profile/SteamID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/90112 Why were you banned?: I killed Rubik ( Once ) for standing on my roof where I had a fountain base. And was operating as a cultist kidnapping people and putting them in the base. Rubik then jailed me, Said why he killed me, I said " You were standing on my roof " Said you arnt a hobo and cant be building there. Then I responded that I've seen countless cultists building on the sidewalks and on the fountain and staff didn't seem to care so I concluded that in Kidnapping culsits were allowed to building stations on the street. Though I was most likely wrong. Then the Ban Hammer fell onto my head. Why should you be unbanned?: What really is wrong with this is that rubic falsely banned me for 7 days for "mass rdm / Building in public ( not as hobo ). How is it mass rdm? what? I didn't know that you could " mass rdm " One person. Killing them * Cough *cough ONCE. Was deemed mass rdm and a 7day ban. I had no active warns nothing. So? If I did this to another person who was not staff I would have gone away with a warn. How much bullshit is it for non-intentionally killing a STAFF member then a normal person on the server cause for a more punishable response? I'm not trying to be a minge people. Who banned you? Rubik Evidence: https://imgur.com/a/F1P4r All of this information is true. I do not ( at this time ) Recall any mass rdming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubik Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 " How is it mass rdm? what? " 1. https://imgur.com/CQPH95a 2. https://imgur.com/kz6FFTR 3. https://imgur.com/3ANNo6N my NLR log https://imgur.com/ZW4uaQV I was afk on top of his "base" on the fountain and I guess he advert warned me from literally that far away and expected me to know it was directed towards me. @focus - I'm forgiving of someone who doesn't know the rules and makes a mistake but coming on here claiming " I do not recall any mass rdming " is just not the truth. "If I did this to another person who was not staff I would have gone away with a warn" This is called self justification and to me it's a confession of guilt, you know what you did was wrong but you didn't expect punishment (probably because you've gotten away with it before). RDMing is killing someone with no RP involved or intent to RP. You killed multiple people for no reason and I don't think you even adverted warn but once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 If they were on my building ( Meaning the roof or the pathways inside ) I can kill them. Just because there is an abundance of killing on my part was just because I was attacked or they were on Or inside my house. I don't need to warn you to get off my own property. "multiple people for no reason" You didn't even call them in. Nor did they say I " RDMed " them. Stop making this shit up. You're assuming way too much. Some of those were people I kidnapped and they wanted to be free ( Or I just got bored of them ) and killed them Inside my chamber.They were not rdm. If you want me to explain every single kill I did. I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubik Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 If you were hobo it would say so. You should know you can't build there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 Another thing. "If I did this to another person who was not staff I would have gone away with a warn". The point I was saying that you quickly came to the conclusion I was mass mingling. Because you were annoyed that I killed you. Going with all the other staff they would of let me off if I explain myself. I had no chance to explain myself nor have a fair sit. You just jailed me right after the kill. Gave me a few secs to try to explain myself. Then after 10sec being annoyed you opened up the menu banned me to deal with It quickly not caring about my part. I fell as though If this happens to another person not you. I would have had a different punishment. It fells to me that staff just likes giving there hardest punishment to people who annoy Them. Not others. Theres been times I've had people NLR me 15x then RDM me a few times out of spawn. Then when staff resounds he goes off with a warning. But then I kill you Once! I get a 7 days ban. Also for a very Non - Intentional RDM. ( Even though I think It wasn't ) The only true reason I got banned was for basing out in public as a cultist. Please don't feel as though I'm attack you personally. I was planning to play with my IRL friends on the server and I got banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubik Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Look at it from my perspective - you built in a public safe zone where you can't even kidnap people. You killed anyone near your base for "tresspassing" but you are in a NO-RP ZONE. You aren't even a hobo. From my POV you are either totally out of the loop on the server rules or you are a total minge-bag. I would like to get some community opinion before I make a decision on this.. I gave you the same punishment as I do anyone else. I jailed you for a sit, I asked for your side of the story and it was clear you had no idea of the rules. I then checked logs and determined you did the same thing to other people. I guarantee they would have felt the same way about it as I did. I also would bet you have not once read over the server rules since this has happened because you come on here saying I gave you unjust punishment and my sit was unfair but have not acknowledged that you broke any rules once. From the post titled Proper punishment times and reasons. Mass RDM intentional or not can default to a one week ban.Your ban also included building in public as a job that does not involve building in public. I think a 7 day ban is a fair amount of time to read over the rules again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 1: I kidnaped people outside of the RP zone. 2: "I guarantee they would have felt the same way about it as I did" No they dont. I didn't rdm anyone. If I did they would of reported it and I would of been in a sit. Stop assuming shit. 3: I didn't kill them When they were on the ground or " Near my base" They were up in the area pathway. ( A pathway surrounding the building above the 1st floor that goes inside my base) Once they go there Its logical that I'm allowed to kill them. Because they can be trying to raid or blowtorch inside. 4 "Mass RDM intentional or not can default to a one week ban." I was talking about 1 rdm. Not mulitpul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubik Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 I'm going to go ahead and lift this ban under the assumption you weren't familiar with the rules regarding building in public. I hope you will take the time to read over the job rules before you choose one. I will offer two scenarios like this that will help you and anyone else understand what good Roleplay is and what is not. Good RP: You go Hobo and build a base in public that is attractive to other players and draws them in. You purchased a Kidnapper SWEP from a Black Market Dealer and use it on them. You offer them a chance to escape or buy their freedom from you for a price. Poor RP: You disregard the rules that only HOBOs can build in public and you build a huge base in a very populated public area. You join a job with the best features for what you want to do so you don't have to pay for anything. Hopefully you won't get caught building in public but you don't really care because you think the punishment won't be very serious, plus you don't have to pay for anything, you spawn with all the tools you need. Other players see you getting away with breaking the rules and your poor RP and they start to do the same in various ways. Staff get swarmed with sits about FAILRP and minging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 Jewish Guy, I killed him because I wanted to " release him " out of my chambers. Evidence; 16:09:05 " Attacked with weapon_Kidnapper: https://imgur.com/3ANNo6N Bounty Hunter Guy, Killed him because he was attacking me and had a bounty on me. Evidence; Music Butch failed a bounty on LtDolphin: https://imgur.com/3ANNo6N Speedy Rebel, I think? ( Not sure ) But recall a person lock picking my doors, or ( Most likely ) was idling on my pathway A pathway surrounding the building above the 1st floor that goes inside my base) Mr1; I kidnapped him Ev; Not on screen when I kidnaped him. I "gotrid of him" after a while because he was nice. He came back was on the pathway with a group of others , Disconnected user, and a dog that I scared off Ducky; Hit me with a non- Leathal gun. I attacked back. Killing him. Evidnce; I don't have access to his logs so nope. This just seems like I killed alot because My lazer gun rapid fires and causes alot of hits. Causing alot of dmg logs. None of these people called me into a sit. None were rdm. There was no mass rdm. Whoops Didn't see the post befor I replied. Thank you. It wont happen again and ill atleast try to use the warn tool more and re-read the motd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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