Report on Blacnova

[Stephanie]

Your Steam Name: Stephanie

Your ingame name: Stephanie

Your Steam Profile/SteamID: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198083351603/

Who are you reporting? (Their name and profile): Blacnova http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198092550696

Reasons why you are reporting: Blacnova blatantly broke the motd. He assisted the heist leader and heist members in a bank raid. After we killed everyone but Blacnova he killed our whole team with a C4. He then went in the back, destroyed all of our printers and processors, and then left the bank. About 10 seconds later he came back into the bank and killed everyone inside and claimed he was still raiding. This clearly breaks this rule located under Misc in the motd:

• If you're heisting the bank, you cannot go back. You must call heist again at some other time."
  

 

 

Also, while Blacnova was in the middle of raiding, sense we killed the bank heist leader, he asked for someone to switch to heist leader and assist the ongoing raid which is FailRP. Switching to assist an ongoing raid for the benefit of the job's tools. I asked for a third party admin and I kid you not EVERY single one told me "no one cares he's an admin"

Evidence: 21:45:49 Player Blacnova (The Burnt Man) said /advert need a bank heister to come to bank. all guards are dead

Also a friend from my discord who was also basing at the bank has it all of video which i'll have him post when he can. 

[Blacnova]

I never asked someone to switch to bank heister, you can even see that. I simply asked a bank heister to come to the bank to assist the raid as normal classes cannot raid bank. I myself am not too sure at how the job works so I wasn't aware that the bank heist leader needs to be a part of the raid and not just a normal bank heister job (at least that's what I've understood from your report).

 

Also, that snippet you posted from the motd is actually really vague. I'm 90% sure it has to do with NLR and not what I did. I had put down a c4 and someone else ran in with it as a suicide bomb, but I still took some damage. So I ran into the bank and killed two ppl, then ran to pd for some armor and ran back. No one else had came in other than you Stephanie, and I just killed you.

Ignore the above and go down to the post after my next post vvvv

 

Short story: you're making a big deal out of nothing.

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oh yeah also, according to Sammah only one person said this quote "no one cares he's an admin", Cynthia. I know you're new to this server and all, but you actually count Cynthia as staff?

[Stephanie]

Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3kVH2CEt-U&feature=youtu.be

 

At 2:52 it shows blacnova leaving the bank and going across the map and then at 3:15 he comes back and kills about 10 people in the bank claiming he was still raiding. Mind you this is the r ule in the motd:

 

If you're heisting the bank, you cannot go back. You must call heist again at some other time.

 

This is what blacnova just admitted to in his comment: 

" So I ran into the bank and killed two ppl, then ran to pd for some armor and ran back."

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Also this is what majority of the staff are doing here's a chat log (Im not showing the name I dont wanna expose anyone)

 

: Idk man

: hes an admin

: so

: I cant do shit

: my response wont matter

Stephanie: Everyone says

Stephanie: this

Stephanie: its not ok for an admin to get away with breaking rules just because hes an admin

: Most hes gonna get is a "Dont do that again"

: or just a warn for NLR

[Blacnova]

If I'm not allowed to do what you're saying please answer the question I asked in the video: So how am I supposed to take the money bags out of the bank to the launderer and go back for the other bags over and over?

 

The answer is, you are allowed, you simply have to call over when the raid is over to signal that it's over.

[Stephanie]

That's not what you were doing, the bank heist leader was one of the first people to die in the raid you said in your comment you were hurt so you ran all the way to the PD and bought armor and then came all the way back and continued the raid. I didn't make the Motd man i'm just following it and it clearly states you can't just completely abandon the bank and then come back

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I don't have any hard feelings against you at all, I respect you as an admin i'm just salty that this is the 3rd time someone is getting away with breaking the rules because they're a higher up, this happened twice with trial mods admitting to being to scared to take action on a moderator let alone an admin.

[Blacnova]

If you're heisting the bank, you cannot go back. You must call heist again at some other time.

the rule in question ^

 

it clearly states you can't just completely abandon the bank and then come back

 

I don't know how you don't see this, it doesn't say that! This rule is super vague and has no context whatsoever lmao.

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EDIT: HOLD ON. So it turns out this rule does have context to it, you just purposely didn't include it to make it seem like the rule applied to your logic.

 

I went back and found where in the motd it says that line because I was thinking that sugar wouldn't just write something so random like that without giving some background and I found:

 

The inside square is the rule you're talking about, ALL THE RULES AROUND IT ARE TALKING ABOUT NLR. I simply walked out of the bank mid raid to grab health and armor, and you're applying a rule that's talking about NLR. lmao nice try tho

[samma]

: Idk man

Here, the staff member is showing doubt that he broke a rule. Considering this was the first part of what you pasted from logs it was most likely when you first explained it and people did not understand. I was there, and  He was probably unsure because he was not even there.

 

: my response wont matter

A valid thought, when considering the specific situation.

: Most hes gonna get is a "Dont do that again"

: or just a warn for NLR

This doesn't have anything to do with him not being able to be punished for breaking a rule. It's actually saying he would get punished from the perspective of whoever said this, and that it is a small issue.

 

Staff weren't ganging up claiming that admins can't be reported, Cynthia said something like "no one's gonna care" but not that admins are exempt from punishment. People were commenting that no one would pay much attention to the issue because frankly the report is based off a very vague part of the MOTD that can be changed based on how you want to view it. The rule is talking about NLR, pretty clearly. Admins are not exempt from punishment but Blacnova did not break a rule in my opinion and this report seems mostly based off the fact you think that he can't be punished for this. However, we (I wasn't even responding in game) were talking about how it's not an issue, not that he could not be punished if he broke a rule. 

[Ghost]

Cynthia is useless.... literally didn’t even think that kiddo came on the server still. Sorry Cynthia but we all know nothing u say is taken seriously or at least by me *queue laughing 

 face*

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Either way I’m neutral on this need some more info

[Stephanie]

Yeah I am basing it off the fact that higher ups don’t get punished because a couple days ago Blacnova broke NLR while raiding and 2 players made a report about it. A lot of staff can testify this. Blacnova has evidence against him and the staff member that took the sit said in admin chat something along the lines of “nova, you did actually break nlr to kill him” and Nova didn’t respond so he just dropped it and nova got away with it

[Blacnova]

 

EDIT: HOLD ON LMAO. So it turns out this rule does have context to it, you just purposely didn't include it to make it seem like the rule applied to your logic.

 

I went back and found where in the motd it says that line because I was thinking that sugar wouldn't just write something so random like that without giving some background and I found:

 

The inside square is the rule you're talking about, ALL THE RULES AROUND IT ARE TALKING ABOUT NLR. I simply walked out of the bank mid raid to grab health and armor, and you're applying a rule that's talking about NLR. lmao nice try tho

 

Please do not mistake this case as nlr. I simply left the bank midraid for like 20 seconds to get armor and health, and I never called over. They quoted a rule that refers to breaking nlr during a heist and are trying to hide the fact that it was about nlr, not leaving the bank and coming back. More info in my quote above ^

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TO CLARIFY: I NEVER DIED, THIS IS NOT NLR AND THE RULE QUOTED DOES NOT APPLY

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Yeah I am basing it off the fact that higher ups don’t get punished because a couple days ago Blacnova broke NLR while raiding and 2 players made a report about it. A lot of staff can testify this. Blacnova has evidence against him and the staff member that took the sit said in admin chat something along the lines of “nova, you did actually break nlr to kill him” and Nova didn’t respond so he just dropped it and nova got away with it

 

I know it's hard to believe but I don't look in admin chat the whole time I'm playing. If there was a real problem and I was ignoring it I wouldn't have complained if someone just tped to me. Also, I have no recollection of this because, as you just said, it happened a few days ago and I don't have a photographic memory of every raid I conduct.

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You also need to stop saying "a lot of staff said" and start naming people we can ask. It just increases the appearance that you are trying to frame me for something I didn't do when you are the only witness.