Rule(s) Interpretation

[CowsRChunky]

Good afternoon everyone!

 

As always, I hope that everyone is having a great day so far. Also, I hope everyone had a fun 4th of July and had a fun time with their family and friends.

 

The purpose of this thread is that I have a few rules that I believe are open to interpretation and I would like to hear from the entire admin/mod community as a whole. I ask you to read into this thread and make your decision purely on logic and to please not get emotionally distraught as your read through; regardless of what may or may not have happened to you in game in the past. With that being said, allow me to elaborate.

 

In order to understand the rationale of the discussion that will take place below, one must first understand 2 bits of information. The first is the definition of raiding and the second are the rules in regards to civilians. The definition of raiding, which can be found at the bottom of the general rules is "Definition of Raiding: Having the INTENT TO INVADE another person's home. Whether you're being harmful or not, TRESPASSING someone else's house should be considered a raid." As for the second piece of information, all you need to know is that Civilians ARE allowed to kidnap. This can be found under civilian rules.

 

Here's the dilemma that I'd like to present to you all. Let's say that you're a civilian (citizen character for example) who has the intent to kidnap a really rich player and hold them for ransom for lots of money. So, in order to gain access to said rich players home you make an advert to sell processors/printers. You then are given permission to come in. Once you're in, you make an attempt to kidnap (no doubt the person will resist and pull out a gun because they wont want to lose their things), the both of you get into a firefight and you kill the homeowner. Afterwards, as a real kidnapper would do in real life (and would also make sense in RP) they would rob/damage the things in the home afterwards without much regard (because they don't live there, a criminal is not going to care what happens to a strangers house).

 

So here's my interpretation of it. If you are a citizen who adverts selling printers/processors with intent to kidnap, and are allowed into a base, but kill a homeowner after he resists, and then rob/blow up his belonging, then it's not considered a raid. It isn't considered a raid because you had no intent to invade and you weren't trespassing.

 

Anyway, now that the argument is presented, I'd like to hear from the admins and mods (I say admins and mods only because most normal players will scream no because they don't want to be raided) on this interpretation. I personally believe that the logic is quite sound. This is not an attempt to "loophole" any rules. This is merely how I am interpreting a section of the rules that have a bit of a grey area to them. Lemme know what you all think.

As always, have a great day!

[Dindu Nuffin]

Thats raiding though...lmao

 

 

 

I like the argument you presented, and it makes sense, but i can't see it being allowed ever on the server. If you come in someones base, invited or not, and blow their shit up, its raiding 100%.

 

 

 

 

You are a citizen kiddo go eat some ice cream or something

[Walter the Assaulter]

You can kidnap as a citizen. You cannot raid.

You can scam them to kidnap them, but you can't touch their shit. You're not involved in that kind of criminal activity.

If you want to bring IRL into this (ugh, but I'll take the bait), being a "criminal" does not mean you will commit any criminal act available to you. People who jaywalk won't go shooting people for money.

[Mr. Peanut Butter]

Wait citizens can kidnap?? wut

[Walter the Assaulter]

Wait citizens can kidnap?? wut

 

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