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I was falsely voteban while breaking no rules.


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Your In-Game Name:

catto

Your Steam ID:

STEAM_0:0:939545031

Who are you reporting?:

STEAM_0:0:5281589

Why are you reporting this player?:

This player votebanned me because i was trying to voteban another player for MNLR, propminge, and building during a raid.
This player should lose the right to use the voting system temporarily.

Do you have evidence related to this incident?:

Yes

Relevant Info:

https://streamable.com/c6agyf

From what im seeing of logs you DID try to vote kick multiple times but i still don't think that is a valid reason to votekick a player. Especially if the player you were trying to votekick *was* breaking rules.

 

I'll refrain from voting till i get more input from other staff. 

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I mean from what I can see, it seemed to be a fair exchange of votekicks. NuB does have some priors specifying their negligent use of votebans, but they're not recent enough to directly alter how I feel about the situation. If I were to go purely off of what's been said in this thread, I'd assume you started more votekicks than the clip shows leading me to -1 this report, however, I have no evidence besides hearsay.

As of now there's just too little to work with. I'll save my vote on this matter until we can get logs from the session or the screen shot NuB referenced.  

After seeing the clip of the raid, I feel as though you were a victim of some mob mentality. 

I can see the frustration on trying to vote kick someone who is blatantly breaking rules, and everyone else not only voting no, but then vote banning you for trying to kick the person who was actually breaking rules.

 

However,

There is still information that has yet to be provided. I will be holding my vote until then.

 

Neutral until response from NuB

4 hours ago, NuBpC said:

You repeatedly tried to vote kick the same player, it was almost unanimously voted no and kept going. I have a screen shot I can upload later. You were going to repeatedly vote until it went through.

So you thought vote kicking him was a good idea? If he is vote kicking/banning someone he most likely has a valid reason to do so. What would make you think this was a good idea? 

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2 hours ago, tali said:

So you thought vote kicking him was a good idea? If he is vote kicking/banning someone he most likely has a valid reason to do so. What would make you think this was a good idea? 

Tali, did you read my response to this in full? He was going to spam votes until it went through. Everyone was voting no. I didn't do something extreme like voteban him.

 

Are you suggesting that the intended use of the vote system is to infinitely recall votes until they go through? At that point why don't we just give those who are eligible to start votes the ability to kick/ban for 30 minutes?

 

Give me a vote restriction or whatever you have to but cmon... I was not using the vote system in bad faith.

3 hours ago, Astrophel said:

I can see the frustration on trying to vote kick someone who is blatantly breaking rules, and everyone else not only voting no, but then vote banning you for trying to kick the person who was actually breaking rules.

I didn't voteban anyone. Do the staff replying to these posts actually read in full detail or just read title and a single reply and then give their opinion?

Edited by NuBpC
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Based on the fact that my original reply was 24 hours ago, and no new information has come forward, I am going to base my vote purely on what has been presented.

 

I think most of us (If not all) by now have seen Catto's clip of the raid. He was very obviously being trolled, and trying to utilize the vote kick system. Yes, a lot of votes were called, but given the situation of entities being involved, I can somewhat understand the .."Urgency"?.. in the moment. 

As to why everybody was against Catto's vote at that time, I cannot say. I can only speculate that there was some mob mentality that was working against their favor.

 

Now based on the perspective of NuBpC.
 

I am under the impression that you were not involved in the raid, but merely a 3rd party seeing a spam of vote kicks based on your replies.

I don't find it unreasonable that you, as someone not involved in the raid or situation, would see a mass influx of vote kicks coming from the same person, and deduce that they were trying to abuse the vote kick system.

I can understand that you yourself would see Catto constantly trying to vote kick the same person over and over, and come to the conclusion that they are abusing the system, and calling for a vote kick yourself.

 

Again, without any more information besides both of your statements, I cannot, in good faith, punish you for doing something that, in that moment, you believed was the right thing to do.

Nothing about the way you handled the situation seems like there was any malice behind it, you just were not familiar with the on going situation, and came to a conclusion based on your own perspective.

 

For those reasons, and the lack of any more information, I cannot in good conscious, issue a punishment to you.

 

+1 No punishment for NuBpC

Edited by Astrophel
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