RDM

[Parth Patel]

In-Game Name

SPYS

Your Steam ID

STEAM_0:0:864675977

Why were you banned or warned?

Rdm

Why should you be unwarned/unbanned?

Dumbass was in the raid zone when somebody was trying to raid me base, i killed him and i was warned for rdm

Who warned/banned you?

Legacy

How long were you warned or banned for?

Warn

 

 

https://streamable.com/ruf4fx

 

 

 

 

If u cant remove the warn atleast add a rule thats says "You must warn the people who are raiding ur base before you kill them"

Edited June 12, 2025 by Spizz

[Guest]

Hi! Im the guy that called the sit.

A: I wasn't hostile at all, you should've seen that I exhibited no hostile actions when Humper [the breacher] broke the door of the base. [Held keys, backed away when door was shot down, backed away when you begun shooting me]
B: There's no such thing as a 'Raid zone' there's Raid District's listed in the rules that dictate the boundaries of a raid, other than that, there's nothing saying I was in a KOSable range.
C : You may KOS anyone interfering in a raid whether you're an attacker or defender, it was obvious I wasn't either, I was holding Keys the entire time and never even went closer to the door after Humper breached [I was waiting for Coconut to enter to watch what would happen as he had a hit] 

When legacy said I should be warned, If I stayed there and kept staring hit your Warn bind, if I pulled a gun you would've had grounds to kill me for sure, but I didn't at all, I just wanted to see Coconut get obliterated honestly.
Not to mention, you have quite the history of being trigger happy!
Hope this added context for staff! 

[Parth Patel]

U should have just moved either before i shot at you or before that raid started and i wouldnt have hit you. Just cause u dont have a gun out doesnt mean u arent raiding either. You could have been in ur inventory getting c4 or timebombs, or even switching to a gun so u could kill me and the others basing there

 

In the past 3 days i have only seen u call sits on me, it kinda seem like u are targeting me finding a way to pull me to a sit for everything i do lmao

Edited June 13, 2025 by Spizz

[Guest]

I've made roughly 6 sits regarding people RDMing me just today, as well as a few failbase/propblocks and 2 on you in the span of 3 days
Not to mention a variety of others, you don't see them all, If you were staff and saw the ticket popup trust me I'd look like kazer.

Secondly, I did back away when Humper breached the door, and backed away once you begun shooting at me, I didn't react INSTANTLY because I didn't think you were gonna kill me since i was bing chilling

[SwaVe]

Attention forum warriors
Before you consider me not being apart of the situation and remove my post -- I was apart of this because I was watching this happen from across raid district and saw it all go down from a third person angle.

Let's be logical
If you look at the clip from a logical standpoint -- the raid defender sees two people standing outside his base and one is initiating a raid and the other is still standing within distance of the raid. It is completely logical and fair to say the defender doesn't have enough time to check your party, name, alias, etc.

In SPYS' mind ( the defender's mindset ) -- he is thinking defense only and to kill the two people standing right outside when a raid was initiated.

There is also a loitering sign that completely matches up with the rules because even though you are at a distance -- you're continuously staring at a base and are outside just at the same time a raid is initiated.

If we're using our brains -- the warn should be removed and I educate you to put yourself in the situation if you had entities or a base to protect -- you're not going to ask questions when you're being raided and there's a guy standing right next to the person who initialized the raid.

Also, the third person (in the orange) likely is friends with the defender so that explains why he wasn't shot at first and it was either a joke raid or he wasn't threatened.

Edited June 13, 2025 by SwaVe

[Parth Patel]

Sanzu backing away 2 steps doesnt mean ur not in the raid "district" u were still close to the base and i thought u were raiding trying to get c4 out of ur inventory. Next time somebody raids my base and their is 3 people around ill ask each and everyone of them if they are raiding once i find out who is raiding ill politely ask them to stop/move away and if they dont move ill warn them 3 times like legacy said in the sit

 

 

 

Thanks @-Legacy- for the great information about defending my base

[Guest]

... you're throwing this drastically out of proportion.
Coconut and Humper's kills were valid [Coconut was right beside door holding weapon, you saw Humper breach door]

And with what Swave said I understand that there's no realistic way to assert whether I was Initiating the raid with Humper, and Spys, there's no obligation to warn 3 times to me, Its a matter of asserting Hostility.
There's 2 players [1 breaches door, 1 is right next to door holding a weapon]
You're fine to shoot and ask questions later but hesitate when seeing someone nearby, This would be like in District 1 raiding the base across PD and shooting everyone in the street as a defender because you dont know who's raiding and who isnt.

Im not saying the kill was valid, Im saying I understand it, I'd be fine knocking it down to something around a verbal, but hesitate for a second, you have your gun drawn against a guy [mr kizaru] against someone holding keys, a moment of hesitation in that situation wont get you killed, especially when i slowly turn and stare at you and then run away 

 

[Malicious]

looks like sanzu was raiding with them you never should’ve been warned.

 

+1 for removal.

[SwaVe]

3 minutes ago, Sanzu Zahard said:

a moment of hesitation in that situation wont get you killed,

Hesitation gets people killed everyday especially in home defense situations. I get that you want to be right, but put yourself in the situation. That's really all left I have to say.

[Guest]

Just now, SwaVe said:

Hesitation gets people killed everyday especially in home defense situations. I get that you want to be right, but put yourself in the situation. That's really all left I have to say.

I do understand it! Returning to your base and seeing 3 players outside, you're going to want to KOS them.
But again it's speculatory, It's ehh, it's mmm, it's leaning either way on a scale.
Honestly I'd be more down for a
+1 for warn removal.
+1 for Rule Rewrite [emphasize a clearer basis on defending range and/or how players can be KOS'd] 
[I know im not staff but do take this into consideration staff!]
Because in all honesty you could be a fuckbag and just go by the rules and only rules, and nowhere does it say I should be KOS.
However I honestly believe a rule like that should be implemented clearing the whole new greyish area on how a player may defend in a niche yet possibly common scenario like this