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Wilhelm Panderino
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In-Game Name

buttfucker3000

Your Steam ID

STEAM_0:0:98564408

Why were you banned or warned?

FTC/rdm

Why should you be unwarned/unbanned?

wasnt rdm and ftc

Who warned/banned you?

chesmond

How long were you warned or banned for?

1 day

some guy shot me with a tele swep which moved me upwards, i killed the guy. He reported me for rdm, i told the mod why i killed the player. During the sit i asked the reporter, if he hit me with the tele swep, yes or no. He wouldnt answer me and chesmond claimed that since there was no logs of using a tele swep that it was rdm. I told chesmond that once the player answers yes or no whether or not he shot me with tele swep and then i will show the clip of what happened. Chesmond never once asked the guy if he shot me with it and just sided with the player the entire time. The guy never answered so i never showed the clip, chesmond claimed that not showing my own clip was Failure to comply and that i committed rdm. First cheesemon said i would be receiving 2 warns for rdm and FTC and then changed it to a 24 hour ban. I was within my right to kill this player for shooting me with a swep that launches you in the sky.

Burdon of proof has ALWAYS been on the player making the report. This was a he said she said situation even though I told the mod why i killed the player and he took the other players word against my own and banned me. EVEN though chesmond never once asked the player if he shot me, This mod is an absolute joke of a staff member.

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1 minute ago, Ironfish1 said:

Do you have proof for any of these statements?

which statements exactly? that chesmond handled the sit terribly and sided with the other player and not once asked him if he shot me? or the fact that i was shot with the tele swep

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I brought you to a sit where the only logs I had were you shooting a player without them shooting you. I asked if you had evidence and you said you did, but "won't send them to you". I told you if you just sent me the clip and it showed what you claimed then I would delete your warn. If you claim you have evidence and then refuse to send it, that would have been grounds to warn/ ban you for FTC. In more severe cases we have banned users ad infinitum until they provide evidence they claim to have. In the future don't withhold evidence!
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after i asked for you to send the evidence you responded saying:spacer.png

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Just now, bugman said:

I brought you to a sit where the only logs I had were you shooting a player without them shooting you. I asked if you had evidence and you said you did, but "won't send them to you". I told you if you just sent me the clip and it showed what you claimed then I would delete your warn. If you claim you have evidence and then refuse to send it, that would have been grounds to warn/ ban you for FTC. In more severe cases we have banned users ad infinitum until they provide evidence they claim to have. In the future don't withhold evidence!
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your take is incorrect. The player that reported me needed to show proof he didnt shoot me. You took his word over my own, this is not how sits work. Withholding my own clip is not FTC lol.

I told you multiple times i would show you the clip when the player that reported me answered my question whether or not he shot me. You never once asked him if thats what happened. You are a terrible moderator

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Just now, Wilhelm Panderino said:

your take is incorrect. The player that reported me needed to show proof he didnt shoot me. You took his word over my own, this is not how sits work. Withholding my own clip is not FTC lol.

I told you multiple times i would show you the clip when the player that reported me answered my question whether or not he shot me. You never once asked him if thats what happened. You are a terrible moderator

I didnt take anyones word over anyone, I told you the logs only show you shooting him, and not him shooting you. He claimed in the sit that "it hadnt started working yet" talking about his telekinesis swep, but once again, his word doesnt matter, as the logs show only you shooting him, and then you refusing to provide evidence otherwise. If you go into a sit with a chip on your shoulder it will never end well. 

 I will give you one more chance to post this clip you claim to have, if you are either lying, or fail to post it, I will insta deny this post and extend your ban to 3 days.

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8 minutes ago, bugman said:

I didnt take anyones word over anyone, I told you the logs only show you shooting him, and not him shooting you. He claimed in the sit that "it hadnt started working yet" talking about his telekinesis swep, but once again, his word doesnt matter, as the logs show only you shooting him, and then you refusing to provide evidence otherwise. If you go into a sit with a chip on your shoulder it will never end well. 

 I will give you one more chance to post this clip you claim to have, if you are either lying, or fail to post it, I will insta deny this post and extend your ban to 3 days.

i would like other staff members to weigh in, you cant just close my appeal within 10 minutes of posting it. I do have the clip. My upload speed is very slow

 

  

8 minutes ago, bugman said:

I didnt take anyones word over anyone,

if you didnt take his word for it, why didnt you ask him, not even a single time, if he shot me with the swep? Literally not even one time. Which means you automatically took his word for it and assumed i rdmed him. I gave my reason for killing him. I shouldnt be required to show proof. and the fact that you banned me for this shows a lot about how you staff and treat players of the server.

the fact that you completely glossed over the fact that I, the player that was reported, asked the player who made the report, Multiple times if he hit me with the swep and him not answering really boggles me. Ive seen tmods handle sits better

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2 minutes ago, bugman said:

I will give you one more chance to post this clip you claim to have, if you are either lying, or fail to post it, I will insta deny this post and extend your ban to 3 days.

what exactly would you extend my ban for? making an appeal? 

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5 minutes ago, Wilhelm Panderino said:

what exactly would you extend my ban for? making an appeal? 

FTC is a 3 day ban, he only banned you for the RDM, also regardless if the burden is on the reporting player, if you have proof that shows what you claim happened actually did happen, there's no reason to not show it if it backs your claim.

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