Report on Ajax

[Zek]

3 hours ago, ajax5206 said:

The motd states, "If your raid is interrupted by a natural event (such as a train, being teleported by the pickle statue or a sit, any raid cooldown timers are voided. You may restart your raid immediately."

There is nothing about allowing a player to continue his raid at the spot he died and then physgunning everyone outside to recreate a very niche set of circumstances.

I didn't kill your "teamate"? I killed you? What should I do when my party is telling me "RAID!!" Should I just tell them "Sorry guys I was in a sit and the motd just tells me to reset the raid cooldown, but I don't want to make Zek sad, so I will just watch him raid from afar." Or should I physgun all my party members who are coming to the raid alert, away from the dupe?

No. motd says you get a raid restart and you now don't have to wait another 20 minutes to raid that place again. You could've waited for your desired stealth entry again, but you decided to go guns blazing, and the party members flanked you.

It is astounding how you still can't acknowledge that it was unfair.

recreating the circumstances I was in is pretty easy and I have a hard time seeing why you disagree? I am not asking for anything out of the ordinary, your party member Matchu was at fault and the right way to correct it is to check death location logs and put me where I was. There is nothing unfair in my request and you're only go to is that the MOTD doesn't state anything about this. That is why I made a debate, if the MOTD doesn't state it, then it comes to common sense and logic, where you weren't able to find any valid arguments to support why it was a fair. 

The quote about killing my teamate was quoted for Jawnm, he is the one who killed my teamate, please read my reply carefully. 

As a staff you not only gave an irrational decision that was supported with fallacies but you took a sit from your party member and never stated it in the sit. Not only that, but you took action after the sit to go and kill me. Not only you allowed me to restart the raid outside to reset the RP situation, which in any case I manage to sneak in the base and that was stolen from me, but also used metagaming to kill me, in the real situation if matchu didn't do so, I would of been in the base for over 2-3 minutes and for you to come where I was would of took you time because the base was hard to navigate through. 

Did you notice that you never once said that you did a mistake anywhere? This is the personality of a bad staff who cannot acknowledge even a single fault in his reasoning.

Edited June 21, 2020 by Zek

[Zek]

3 hours ago, ajax5206 said:

I brought a 2nd opinion to the sit when I was unsure on how to proceed while wanting to be unbiased, followed direct motd guidelines in allowing restart of raid, and responded to my party's request for defense.

I even requested for an smod to come to the sit, but they were afk.

I don't think it's common sense to expect me to physgun everyone out and have you blowtorch some props you claim to have blowtorched the first time.

I followed this exactly as I believe it should have been handled, and don't see any fault, except maybe responding to my party's plea for help? I think I should be able to RP and support my party after a request for assistance, no? Am I tied to not stopping a raider if I was in a sit with them several minutes before?

There was no complication, no one was in the base, no one claimed they were in and you could of easily checked if someone was in. 

It's a simple situation : I sneak in the base, no one was there, Metchu deleted his dupe kills me.

I still don't understand why you come back to me blowtorching props, it is a DISADVANTAGE for me to not have an escape route and I would of even approved to be brought back if you told me I couldn't blowtorch it back. Also WHO'S FAULT is it that the dupe got removed and we don't know where it got blowtorched? Mine? You see how flawed your reasoning is, you're willing to punish me for something your party member did and that got away with a verbal? 

It is insane you seek so much approval from other staff, Walter's reply is only supported by his past actions that he never lets people continue raids. Walter goes on saying "Especially", why would there be a "Especially" if it's a concrete rule? It's either you can or cannot, the reason he added "Especially" is because it's a subjective matter. Btw his "Especially" reason can't be applied here because there was no complication and it was a simple situation that could of been handled way better.

I do agree with herb, but his stance is that their could be complication in many situation, which in this specific situation where no one has any objections on what happened (Everyone agreed that Matchu did was wrong and that the base was empty) no one complained about a misinformation about this situation.

 

[Rubik]

So based on the evidence here in the report and after checking logs I'm going to accept this report. It looks to me like Ajax took the sit to protect his friend, and made some really bad choices in the process. One of the points that really upset me that I don't see mentioned in this report is that Ajax actually returned the guy back inside his base after he FailRPed and then put Zek back outside to "restart" the raid, and then killed him as he tried to continue. If you're going to restart a raid the situation should not change at all. I believe this is one of the first legitimate reports for "biased staff" we have every received. Ajax's staff rank will be removed the time being.

Accepted