[Police Department Overhaul.]

I have edited some suggestions in, Users should relook over the changes.

[Police Department Overhaul.]

5 minutes ago, Saiko said:

Personally i think basing as CP is good as it is. You can make some pretty OP dupes if you know what youre doing. Usually a mayor has his own dupe while another cp has a dupe for lobby. Making it 6 fading doors which is valid because its 2 separate dupes. Other than that those suggestions are pretty good and id love to see them happen

 

Afaik since the pd shares the base it shares the rules, I don't think two separate bases makes it two separate limits.

[Police Department Overhaul.]

This Thread will be home to many aspects concerning PD, and will probably be the thread i use for further edits instead of separate one.

 

Fines

 

- Rework fines to allow a max of $15,000.

* Add a stipulation in Cop rules saying that non-violent crimes must stay below $5,000 (Current Max), However multiple crimes or violent crimes can go above that value. More serious crimes should be more punishable as well as committing multiple crimes. Jaywalkers should not get the same fine as a mass serial killer.

** I assume the limit was downed because a bad law example says 20k which i assume used to be the old max, and i guess every mayor just defaulted fines to 20k. However the max being this low means that people who should be taking a hit to their wallet get off much more than someone committing a much lesser crime. It's very frequent for a jaywalker to get fined 4x as much as a mass murderer because of this.

 

- Allow a bounty to combine with another fine, so the bounty and the crime is dealt with in the same fine. Fining a user for a bounty and then recuffing to fine them for the actual crime seems silly and inefficient.

 

Jobs

- Give a AR15 to S.W.A.T Sniper, For a VIP job it has worse gear than a majority of default swat jobs. It should atleast have a side rifle.

* Remove the vote off this job too, It's a vip job lmao.

 

- Remove the vote off Juggernaut aswell, Paid jobs should not have votes.

 

- Rename "Smoke" to "S.W.A.T Support" and also give it an AR15 and a medkit. Hopefully this will give it something on par with Juggernaut and still be unique.

 

- Allow Chiefs to fire anyone in their division, more explained Here.

 

 

Equipment

 

- Add a new Scanner for the S.W.A.T Jobs or atleast the VIP ones to give them some flair and practicality. Hopefully this will also give PD something to do other than pissing off the populace with their jaywalking laws because they can't find anything else to do. Also I think raids for the Department are severely lacking due to no accurate way to determine crime within a base.

** Rather than giving this to all S.W.A.T by default, Have this as a Police Specialized Gang Perk much like the perk that equips a sledgehammer for example. Gives another thing to grind for very good reward and will most likely distinguish the dedicated cops.

 

- Give the "PD Commander" SWEP to the S.W.A.T Chief and Mayor, Why one chief can talk to his men and not the other two kinda makes no sense.

 

- Buff the taser, Make bodyshots a smidge more powerful as well as headshots, Currently it takes 75% of the taser's mag on bodyshots or 35% on headshots (hard as hell to do btw) in order to get a decent stun. It's often so bad compared to cuff rushing like a moron that some people refer to the taser as "a free pass to rdm".

* Alternatively, Make this a level perk.

 

Basing

 

- Allow an extra fading door for the police department, Effectively meaning a 4 max fading door limit compared to the default 4.

* The reasoning is because PD oftentimes for bases uses all three doors for defense and have none left for the cells or the mayoral office, You could make the argument "split the doors across the sections then" but either leaves entire sections exposed for raids or makes them easy as hell to enter. The extra fading door should either be used to close off the jail cells or the Mayor's office if a mayor wants to separate the access from his office and the main PD.

 

Rules/Laws

- Add a default Illegal Activity stating that being outside during a lockdown is not allowed, aka fineable/aos

- Add a default Illegal Activity: Conducting Hits: The action of placing, accepting, or carrying out hits.

 

Gang Talents: Police Specialized

- Buff 'Persuasive Fine' to $3,000. $750 is way too low to justify an entire Gang Token. 3-5k is generally the medium range for bounties. any lower people won't really actually search for.

- Add a Talent called "Skilled Architecture", Any Cop with this talent will have props that are immune to destruction. Dematerialization will still work though, just not destroy props.

* Alternatively make this perk give resistance to explosives.

- Add a Talent called "Daily Quota" that increases the max fine amount to $8,000

- Add a Talent called "Bounty Doesn't Pay", Bounty fines not paid increase jail time by a minute, this stacks with "Crime Doesn't Pay"

- Add a Talent called "Duty Calls" that prevents kidnapping while using the cuff menu. Does not activate Hard Hat.

 

 

Level Talents:

- Add a new talent called "Experienced Frisking" for 3 talents. This increases the speed of a weaponcheck confiscation, increases range and removes the need to have a user cuffed in order to do this.

 

 

['First Time on the Job']

13 hours ago, Rubik said:

This can happen if you reinstall gmod or erased your /data/ folder. 

 

Neither of those happened.

 

11 hours ago, Zesty said:

just click onto the details of the job instead of double clicking the icon

 

You mean do not right click to show detail?

[Rework the !unfun Command]

18 hours ago, Blue. said:

The mayor is not here for the cops

 

The mayor likewise isn't here just for the criminals, Legalizing everything humanly possible and hiding in a corner is absurd, and is actually a real example that happened. Goes without saying he got revoted in because the citizens loved the pd not being able to do anything.

 

18 hours ago, Blue. said:

In the end there are a base of default laws that can not be over ridden, that should be a cops main focus anyways.

 

Stealing/Raiding happens to infrequently for a cop to consider it a 'main focus' and often times blatant assault rarely happens. Most cops enforce Weapons laws and occasionally public disturbance.

 

 

18 hours ago, Blue. said:

Long story short: Cops bend their knee to their mayor over lord and if they have an issue with a certain mayor they should overthrow said mayor and become a cop again

 

 

What you are suggesting is that Police if they don't like this and have to actively go out of there way to solve it. If this isn't the dictionary definition of hindering role play I don't know what is.

 

 

You didn't address any of my solutions or counter points either which makes me doubt that you actually read the whole thing and instead replied with your own solutions which basically translates to "lmao deal with it"

[Rework the !unfun Command]

Currently because cops have zero say in unfun, Mayor's that are even slightly against criminals get voted out no matter how lenient they may be, Any gun laws? !unfun, Any Jaywalk laws? !unfun. Cops get no say in this.

 

If this system is to remain this way, It should also be added that unfun's started by police mean criminals get no say in the matter. It's utterly bullshit that people can unfun a genuinely alright mayor but the second a mayor get it that decides to legalize literally everything so cops can't enforce anything, unfun doesn't work because the affected party (police) gets no say, and the befitting party (criminals) can vote no. Why can people decide no tyrants but Cops can't decide no anti-pd mayors? I find it highly ironic that the reason that cops have no say is because PD would just do away any unfun with an pd biased mayor, but now that Cops have no say these same people don't care if It's the reverse flipped on the officers. Seems like a case of making changes to suit criminals to me.

 

This was written after 4 mayors in a row legalized everything so PD can't do anything. Either this should be implemented or neutral citizens and police should get more voting power in elections so mayor's can't cheese shit like this and get away with it.

[E2/ Better\updated build tools]

As much as i love E2, I'm not going to encourage if you are suggesting to restrict it right away.

 

Think of it like this:

1) How many people can actually use e2? (Know how to code)

2) How many of these people are VIPs (People that can use it, according to your suggestion)

3) How many people with these requirements will actually use it? Just because you can use something doesn't mean people will.

 

All these requirements boil down to don't bother adding it. This may be a Sandbox perspective. But a restricted tool is one not worth having on a server.

[Allow Chief's to handle their respective divisions.]

7 minutes ago, Doge Skeletor said:

Shouldn't give that much power, too easily abused, mayor does that perfectly fine, delegating the ability to basically demote any player without a vote to a voteless class is a horrible idea.

 

No more abusive than mayors committing mass firings. Just saw it happen an hour ago. If a player is abusing a job, Report them.

['First Time on the Job']

Category:

Bug

Priority:

Low

Description:

So I'm roughly level 9 and have played alot of Civil Protection, No matter when I join, I ALWAYS get the "This seems to be your first time on the job, Please read It!"

This causes me to waste 15 seconds of my life every time i switch jobs. It's kinda annoying.

How to reproduce:

Be me, I guess? I don't know the conditions that may cause this.

[Allow Chief's to handle their respective divisions.]

Police Chief should be able tofire any Police, Likewise The S.W.A.T Chief for any of his S.W.A.T. It makes little sense how the chiefs have no actual power and no one under their authority takes any of the PD hierarchy seriously other than the Mayor. It would also be nice if the Mayor could delegate some of his duties to his chiefs, as it would be more sensical and more reliable actually.

[Some bugs i found playing Police.]

Category:

Bug

Priority:

Low

Description:

Weaponchecking a user first pops if they have a license or not. Ex: "Haze_of_dream'doesn't have a valid gun license!"

The problem is that lack of proper spacing makes it hard to differentiate if they have an actual license or not quickly. The spacing should be fixes or it should be reworded to simply has "Has Gun License" and "Does not have a Gun License". Including the name of the person you are checking seems redundant as it tells you anyway when It list their weapons in the next line.

Next, Dragging a already cuffed player goes through the FULL CUFF TIME. To fix this, Cuffs should check if the aimEntity is already cuffed and then skip the timer.

How to reproduce:

1) Weapon check a user to replicate this.

2) Drag a user in Cuffs to replicate.