Ban Appeal

[Foxy � Chi]

Mass NLR is a 7 day ban.

 

Well of course, but I’m just arguing that it seems like a very lengthy time.. I also was not given any warnings or anything; just a fairly aggressive gesture of “You did something wrong so.. goodbye!”. He never even really said why I was banned either; rather he stayed as a mute. It was an honest mistake and I didn’t mean to cause any negativity at that moment either.

 

(Again, please give me a few more minutes; I’m done with personal things and I’m on my way home to reply to all. Will be home around 1:00pm CT)

[Foxy � Chi]

In the MOTD that pops up every single time every single player joins the server,

 

And if you did die in a raid/heist, its simply over. You CANNOT come back and continue raiding/defending. Accept that you lost and move on. Don't come back to the raid.

NLR Time Limit: Read NLR rules above/Until the raid or heist is over.

NLR Exists, don't be stupid

Going back to finish a heist as a raider after you died NOT ALLOWED

 

Why did you choose not to read the MOTD?

 

I did read the MOTD. It's not like I read something over once and memorize it permanently. I make mistakes, I'm not some superhuman. As I said below in a reply, I have read it and I'm not the person to remember something immediately. There are over 75 rules/guidelines stated in that thread. If you ask a completely new person that has never played or barely touched GMod to read the rules and memorize every single thing stated in there, I personally don't think that person will. Maybe after a few days or a week of playing.

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Should have read the rules BEFORE playing to understand how to play before having at it, but I like the apology, I'm +1 for Reduce

 

but like... I wouldn't play monopoly without reading the handbook first and just start grabbing money and throwing hotels everywhere

 

I did read the rules, and I've re-read them again after the ban sentence. Thank you for the +1 reduction. 

 

My view is like this; You read the rules and guidelines on Monopoly and think you have a grasp on how to play. You play and you stumble upon something you don't know or already forgot, so you go back to the rules and guidelines to look it up and see what it is again.

 

For example: What if a player goes bankrupt when they are elected "Chairman of the Board" and have to pay each other $50? Would you know that one immediately or would you go search it up/look back at the rules & guidelines?

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the rules quite literally pop up on the screen when you join, so theres no mistaking that it dosnt exist.

Your own self ignorance caused this.

That's what I would usually say to threads like this, but this genuinely seemed very heartfelt and 

I see how you're trying to be considerate of what you've done.

You're in the wrong, but understand and promise to never do it again, yet you could have avoided this extremely easily.

Neutral 

 

 

Thank you for being in the neutral and giving opinion on this case.

 

I've read the rules, yes, and I would say lack of knowledge and understanding instead of pure self-ignorance. I've also re-read the rules a few more times to grasp even more understanding how the server works. I also really didn't mean to intentionally cause a disturbance, negativity, or any of such and I was truly trying to learn my way around the server. I do realize I did something wrong, yes, and it was unintentional and am pretty sincere about it because again, I really never meant to cause chaos and such.

 

Again, thank you for your reply and much more.

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You really should have read the rules but the apology was nice so I'm neutral

 

Aaah, thank you, and I did. I've also re-read the rules right after the ban and have more knowledge on what is what. ^^

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This is what makes me so angry with players cause everyone say the same thing “I really never meant to cause harm I really do love this server” No cause if you did love the server or had a lot of. Interest like you say you did then you would have read motd.

 

Cause right there when you spawn in IT SAYS MOTD. sorry man you failed to read it and failed to understand the rules. Maybe Cynthia could of explain them to you but most of it Is your fault.

 

- for unbanned 

 

No offense but why is this all in red text..? It seems a little disrespectful and informal on a serious thread (At least to me). I can read white text. None the less, thank you for the reply to my thread and giving information/opinion.

 

I'm going to be purely honest here, I never said I loved this server. I'm interested and like the server far more than my past server, yes. Love is too strong of a word in this situation. I'm sorry that I made you angry, I really didn't mean to. My apologies. Also, as I said with many other replies, I have read the MOTD but did not grasp every single thing that was written there such as the NLR rule. I did grasp many others that were listed and explained in that thread. I've also re-read the rules a few more times to understand more about the server and how it is.

[Maverick]

Long story short. We aren't going to overlook a rule break because you are new. You weren't wrongfully banned so there was no point in this appeal. Just serve your sentence.

[Foxy � Chi]

Okay I'll buy that you're new to darkrp, but you literally have 14 hours on the server since January 2nd, that alone is enough time for you to most definitely be held accountable for your actions here. 

So you mean to to tell us the five days you've played the server you never bothered to read the motd and come to the conclusion that what you did was against the rules? 

 

-1 for unban

 

First of all, I first joined during January 2nd, that is true. If you can look at my history on the server, I played approximately an hour or two during that day. I left to play other games and servers, then came back to this one cause it did interest me and appeal to me than others. 

 

If you're very interested in my time here, I would like to say that at least 7 hrs of it is me AFKing in spawn due to sleeping or other activities outside of GMod. I did not purely spend 14 hours on the server. 

 

I did read the rules/MOTD. Couldn't remember every single rule listed there since there are about 75+ rules listed. As I said, I am sorry for my misunderstandings and negative actions I did. 

 

Here's my question; If you decided to learn programming and the coding language for five days, all adding up to 14 hours during the five days, would you understand how to professionally code using C++, Java, Python, etc? I wouldn't think so; no offense.

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Long story short. We aren't going to overlook a rule break because you are new. You weren't wrongfully banned so there was no point in this appeal. Just serve your sentence.

 

I am serving my sentence as we speak... I would just like an explanation of why a few staff members are aggressive, sometimes unresponsive, and why I never got a warning and was just immediately banned with no reply and a screenshot, as well as a possible time deduction to my ban. I'm sure that you wouldn't overlook it, but I'd like an admin to look into this situation since admins have word overall according to rules as well as moderators not being able to unban anyway. I'm sure they have more empathy, feelings and more of a reasonable answer than you for this situation. I do see a few other moderators showing empathy and understanding, so thank you so much for the support/neutral standing!

 

Thank you for replying again though. ^^

[Maverick]

Why do you feel you deserve a shortened ban? It isn't our fault that you don't understand the rules. Also, mods can uban/shorten bans. They just have to be the person that banned the victim :)

[Foxy � Chi]

Why do you feel you deserve a shortened ban? It isn't our fault that you don't understand the rules.

 

I know it isn't your guys' fault that I didn't understand the rules but 168 hours for one single mistake I made while trying to learn the game mode? It really seems silly in my opinion. I understand that intentional RDMing is a full 168 hours which is very reasonable, but for a single NLR rule, which was an honest mistake I made and I admit and own up to it, also ban as long as an intentional RDM..? I personally think that's too long. I wasn't even trying to intentionally break a rule or cause such negativity to anyone.

 

I would've liked to be placed in a SIT, moderator/staff member acknowledges and tells me what I did wrong, then we exchange conversation on what and why I did what I did and the staff member giving me a warning or at least sentencing me for 72 hours. That seems more of a professional approach, but instead what I got was me being frozen in spawn for no longer than 10 seconds, then an instant ban with no explanation, warning or exchange of words.

 

Ah, well the person that has banned me has yet to reply to this thread. That and I'm positive any and all admins can do the same with any player they choose. It seems better to me since I actually see a few admins looking at threads, working, helping the server and trying to respond the best of their abilities while I see a few inactive moderators or ones that are currently throwing fits in other threads. (No offense to that person if you know who this is directed to, and no, this isn't towards you, Griffin)

[Maverick]

Should the sit have been handled better? Yes. Is the punishment time just, based off of a guide an admin made? Yes.

[Foxy � Chi]

Should the sit have been handled better? Yes. Is the punishment time just, based off of a guide an admin made? Yes.

 

If the sit happened, I wouldn't have had this issue and none of us would be arguing about what is what. Also, my apologies, but I can't find the punishment time admin guide?

 

Is this it? If it is, I see no guideline time for NLR. If this is being counted for RDM, then I never was verbally warned and this could count as a false ban if common sense is being applied for this.

 

RDM Guideline (Amount of time) (Screenshot)

[Maverick]

Should the sit have been handled better? Yes. Is the punishment time just, based off of a guide an admin made? Yes.

 

If the sit happened, I wouldn't have had this issue and none of us would be arguing about what is what. Also, my apologies, but I can't find the punishment time admin guide?

 

Is this it? If it is, I see no guideline time for NLR. If this is being counted for RDM, then I never was verbally warned and this could count as a false ban if common sense is being applied for this.

 

RDM Guideline (Amount of time) (Screenshot)

 

So I thought it was in there but oh well. NLR is basically the same punishment as RDM. Which Mass RDM is a 7 day ban. As well as Mass NLR. Which means you cannot come back in a raid after you died. Which you did at least 3 times. So the ban shouldn't be shortened at all. I'm gonna close this for an admin to review since this is just repeating itself.