FadedMan Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Your Steam Name: ChanceTheFaperr Your ingame name: ChanceTheFaperr Your Steam Profile/SteamID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/ChanceOP/ Who are you reporting? (Their name and profile): Pigergast. Reasons why you are reporting: False Warn, at about midnight last night i was brought to a sit with pigergast and skyty. Skyty was claiming that i broke nlr and rdmed him. what happened was i was standing in a door way that skyty was trying to get through so he told me to move.. i moved and then after he put warn in chat and killed me anyway (i did not report it at the time because i had no proof that i did not move) after i respawned i proceeded to raid Ipug2's base (skyty was inside) and i killed skyty and one of his friends because they were inside of it at the time. when i was brought to the sit i tried to explain my story and skyty just talked over me the whole time for like 5 mins. then finally pigergast mutes skyty so i can talk. i tell him what happened and he said that he was gonna leave this sit alone, he told skyty to take it up on the forums if he still had a problem. he said that the sit was over, i asked if it was ok for me to get off at that point he said yes. then i come on today and find 2 warns from pigergast and 1 from snapshot for the exact same thing (RDM + NLR). i talked to snapshot about it earlier and he said he warned me because piger asked him to because he did not know how to warn offline player. so overall i got the ok to get off after a sit was finished and then i was warned 3 times for the same illegitimate reason. Evidence: http://imgur.com/74EpJkO . sorry its such bad quality but you guys can just look at my warns on the server for further proof. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoscher Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 So, first about the triple warn. It was an honest mistake I made. I tried to ID warn you the first time, didn't received a notification you were warned. I tried again and yielded the same result so I assumed that the warn wasn't administered. However as we know it did, and I want to sincerely apologize for it and will get a higher up to remove 2 of those three warn. Now, about the warns, they were definitely legitimate. As seen above, Chance was first killed by skyty, and 1 minute later he came back and killed both 8-bit(who was at the location of his death) and Skyty. After checking logs, I asked him why did he returned after being killed. You stated you came back, killed them because you were "raiding", and said that it was not nlr and revenge rdm because the first time it was rdm( a case you didn't report and KNEW, from your statement above, won't hold up.). So basically saying, you came back, killed them, saying that the first time you were killed by them was rdm even though you didn't report it which means you accepted that the kill was valid and nlr applied. Plus you also loopholed the raid rules so that you can justify returning to kill skyty and 8-bit. So after discussing with snapshot after you left, I decided to warn you for it since it was legitimate NLR and Revenge RDM Also some statements that you made that were false. "i tried to explain my story and skyty just talked over me the whole time for like 5 mins." You BOTH were talking over each other, making it really hard to hear each side of the story, which lead me to the second statement: "pigergast mutes skyty so i can talk." I muted both of you since you two won't stop arguing to explain what the logs said. " so overall i got the ok to get off after a sit was finished" The case was never finished, unfortunately after what I've said in the end of the sit. After you left, Skyty talked to me more about you, and after I re-looked at the evidences from log(I didn't use any anecdotal evidence) and consulted snapshot, I decided to give you a warn since evidence from log was crystal clear and your claims don't hold up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FadedMan Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 So, first about the triple warn. It was an honest mistake I made. I tried to ID warn you the first time, didn't received a notification you were warned. I tried again and yielded the same result so I assumed that the warn wasn't administered. However as we know it did, and I want to sincerely apologize for it and will get a higher up to remove 2 of those three warn. Now, about the warns, they were definitely legitimate. As seen above, Chance was first killed by skyty, and 1 minute later he came back and killed both 8-bit(who was at the location of his death) and Skyty. After checking logs, I asked him why did he returned after being killed. You stated you came back, killed them because you were "raiding", and said that it was not nlr and revenge rdm because the first time it was rdm( a case you didn't report and KNEW, from your statement above, won't hold up.). So basically saying, you came back, killed them, saying that the first time you were killed by them was rdm even though you didn't report it which means you accepted that the kill was valid and nlr applied. Plus you also loopholed the raid rules so that you can justify returning to kill skyty and 8-bit. So after discussing with snapshot after you left, I decided to warn you for it since it was legitimate NLR and Revenge RDM Also some statements that you made that were false. "i tried to explain my story and skyty just talked over me the whole time for like 5 mins." You BOTH were talking over each other, making it really hard to hear each side of the story, which lead me to the second statement: "pigergast mutes skyty so i can talk." I muted both of you since you two won't stop arguing to explain what the logs said. " so overall i got the ok to get off after a sit was finished" The case was never finished, unfortunately after what I've said in the end of the sit. After you left, Skyty talked to me more about you, and after I re-looked at the evidences from log(I didn't use any anecdotal evidence) and consulted snapshot, I decided to give you a warn since evidence from log was crystal clear and your claims don't hold up. I realize that i killed skyty 1 min after he killed me... that does not make it nlr. nlr is only with raids, i was not raiding at that point. then i came back to Ipugs base and raided him. both of them were inside.... was i supposed to just let them free? and why would i even report the skyty rdm i already said i had no proof. and you 100% said the sit was over and that i could get off, but instead after i got off you just listened to skyty and warned me when i was not even there to defend myself... thats just not ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Respected of TitsRP Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Your Steam Name: ChanceTheFaperr Your ingame name: ChanceTheFaperr Your Steam Profile/SteamID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/ChanceOP/ Who are you reporting? (Their name and profile): Pigergast. Reasons why you are reporting: False Warn, at about midnight last night i was brought to a sit with pigergast and skyty. Skyty was claiming that i broke nlr and rdmed him. what happened was i was standing in a door way that skyty was trying to get through so he told me to move.. i moved and then after he put warn in chat and killed me anyway (i did not report it at the time because i had no proof that i did not move) after i respawned i proceeded to raid Ipug2's base (skyty was inside) and i killed skyty and one of his friends because they were inside of it at the time. when i was brought to the sit i tried to explain my story and skyty just talked over me the whole time for like 5 mins. then finally pigergast mutes skyty so i can talk. i tell him what happened and he said that he was gonna leave this sit alone, he told skyty to take it up on the forums if he still had a problem. he said that the sit was over, i asked if it was ok for me to get off at that point he said yes. then i come on today and find 2 warns from pigergast and 1 from snapshot for the exact same thing (RDM + NLR). i talked to snapshot about it earlier and he said he warned me because piger asked him to because he did not know how to warn offline player. so overall i got the ok to get off after a sit was finished and then i was warned 3 times for the same illegitimate reason. Evidence: http://imgur.com/74EpJkO . sorry its such bad quality but you guys can just look at my warns on the server for further proof. Chance you do relize that your evidence dosent prove that your warns were "illegitimate" it justs proves that you were warned three times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Steve Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 If he happened to kill Skyty a minute after, it doesn't mean NLR. There could have been something else going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoscher Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 So, first about the triple warn. It was an honest mistake I made. I tried to ID warn you the first time, didn't received a notification you were warned. I tried again and yielded the same result so I assumed that the warn wasn't administered. However as we know it did, and I want to sincerely apologize for it and will get a higher up to remove 2 of those three warn. Now, about the warns, they were definitely legitimate. As seen above, Chance was first killed by skyty, and 1 minute later he came back and killed both 8-bit(who was at the location of his death) and Skyty. After checking logs, I asked him why did he returned after being killed. You stated you came back, killed them because you were "raiding", and said that it was not nlr and revenge rdm because the first time it was rdm( a case you didn't report and KNEW, from your statement above, won't hold up.). So basically saying, you came back, killed them, saying that the first time you were killed by them was rdm even though you didn't report it which means you accepted that the kill was valid and nlr applied. Plus you also loopholed the raid rules so that you can justify returning to kill skyty and 8-bit. So after discussing with snapshot after you left, I decided to warn you for it since it was legitimate NLR and Revenge RDM Also some statements that you made that were false. "i tried to explain my story and skyty just talked over me the whole time for like 5 mins." You BOTH were talking over each other, making it really hard to hear each side of the story, which lead me to the second statement: "pigergast mutes skyty so i can talk." I muted both of you since you two won't stop arguing to explain what the logs said. " so overall i got the ok to get off after a sit was finished" The case was never finished, unfortunately after what I've said in the end of the sit. After you left, Skyty talked to me more about you, and after I re-looked at the evidences from log(I didn't use any anecdotal evidence) and consulted snapshot, I decided to give you a warn since evidence from log was crystal clear and your claims don't hold up. I realize that i killed skyty 1 min after he killed me... that does not make it nlr. nlr is only with raids, i was not raiding at that point. then i came back to Ipugs base and raided him. both of them were inside.... was i supposed to just let them free? and why would i even report the skyty rdm i already said i had no proof. and you 100% said the sit was over and that i could get off, but instead after i got off you just listened to skyty and warned me when i was not even there to defend myself... thats just not ok Nlr does NOT only apply to raid if you read motd. Quoting motd, "New Life Rule does not exist in this server. What does exist is defeat". You were killed by skyty in ipug2's base(in which he shares with)and didn't make a report about it, which means you accepted that were defeated. And also I didn't listen to skyty. If I had listen to skyty you would've been permaed(which is what skyty asked me to do). I only use log evidences when making my final verdict. Also I will not turn this case into an arguing match and only respond to clarify or add evidences . The evidences are all present and now I'll wait and let the higher ups judge the case and deliver final judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Steve Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Yes, what Piger said is right, but just because hes raiding a different place and Skyty happened to be in there when Chance was raiding, it doesn't really mean he killed sky because of defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoscher Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Yes, what Piger said is right, but just because hes raiding a different place and Skyty happened to be in there when Chance was raiding, it doesn't really mean he killed sky because of defeat. Skyty was in his base when he killed Chance and both 8-bit and Skyty was in the same base when Chance killed them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotShot26 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I am missing one thing here: If it was NLR he had to raid, If he was in the door way, how was it a locked door that he can raid? nothing would have been set up. EVEN IF he did lock up the doors and kick him out it is not NLR because the first time the doors were NOT locked making it an uraidable public place. Unless the doors were locked (he was in the door way so this is not likely) it was not NLR. REMOVE THE WARNS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoscher Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I am missing one thing here: If it was NLR he had to raid, If he was in the door way, how was it a locked door that he can raid? nothing would have been set up. EVEN IF he did lock up the doors and kick him out it is not NLR because the first time the doors were NOT locked making it an uraidable public place. Unless the doors were locked (he was in the door way so this is not likely) it was not NLR. REMOVE THE WARNS! Did you get this story from Chance? Cause it was the exact story he told me. However skyty's side of the story contradicts his story(http://imgur.com/a/lMUku), and since there's not really any way for me to verify both of their claims(both of them have no evidence for the first encounter), I had to disregard it when making the final verdict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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