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11 hours ago, Obi said:

I had made mistakes with what I had said as it was really late and I was tired, I am sorry I fully agree with what he had said but I agreed with womcjovxd on me making a mistake that's why I had even tried reasoning with him , I have not been tmod for a week and whilst that is NOT an excuse I feel as if he should not expect me to be perfect especially when I first took the sit with womcjovxd as the accused and there was literally no other sit on my screen, I attempted to Teleport both players, he was not in the server so I deleted his props, I believe all I could be in trouble for is jumping to conclusions but I have reasoning if you read below and again I had both apologized and removed the warn from his account because I realized I made a mistake when I believed he left and wasn't joining back, but I 100% tried to teleport him more than once.  I never gigamuted him I simply waited for the sit I claimed  to be over so that I may quickly take care of the issue that womcjovxd had. 
I understand why you would feel towards me getting demoted but at the same time I do not feel as if I should be demoted since I had taken a sit and during the sit I attempted to teleport womcjovxd multiple times and he was not able to be teleported until he joined back, then as soon as I was able to tp him without upsetting another player I teleported him. 

I will let you know now why I believed he was a minge from the very start.

For the very first sit I had against womcjovxd it was him and swag Sammy
Officer womcjovxd (STEAM_0:0:885113191) wanted Swag Sammy (STEAM_0:0:455572375) (Trapstar Kushjo) for Being a bad boy <30-01-2025 / 16:42:06>
his reasoning was
Player womcjovxd(STEAM_0:0:885113191) (PD Commander) said he was disturbing the peace and then i weapon search him <30-01-2025 / 16:43:31> 
I keep going with the sit and he changes his story and says this
Player womcjovxd(STEAM_0:0:885113191) (PD Commander) said well you were searched because u had a lot of guns <30-01-2025 / 16:44:03>
for another reason as to why I jumped to conclusion, I tried making the situation better by trying to not warn him and he responds with.
Player womcjovxd(STEAM_0:0:885113191) (PD Commander) said how about you take some other sits besides your gay boyfriends <30-01-2025 / 16:46:58>
which i tried to make better but he was still upset


before our sit as well he had WANTED a PD
Officer womcjovxd (STEAM_0:0:885113191) wanted ✯Joker (STEAM_0:1:84333044) (SWAT) for Being a bad boy <30-01-2025 / 16:12:22>
and also arrested him
Officer womcjovxd (Fantasma) (STEAM_0:0:885113191)  arrested ✯Joker (SWAT) (STEAM_0:1:84333044)  <30-01-2025 / 16:12:24>

the main reasons as to why I jumped to conclusions was because I fully believed he was a minge looking over all the stuff I had seen and I apologize, swag Sammy has a clip of him just walking up and arresting him, I can bring a clip I simply need to wait for swag Sammy to send it over to me since he screen shared it to me in the general VC.


I just went through the logs I have saved and saw this as well
Player womcjovxd (STEAM_0:0:885113191) (Citizen) called a sit for: false demote and trapping me in entitys <30-01-2025 / 16:50:17>
Player womcjovxd (STEAM_0:0:885113191) (PD Commander) called a sit for: false demote <30-01-2025 / 16:48:35>
Player womcjovxd (STEAM_0:0:885113191) (Fantasma) called a sit for: he attacked and killed me for nothing <30-01-2025 / 16:08:30>

These are the three sits he made and I did not see the first two that is why I acted so quickly on the report at 16:50 that he made but again I apologize for not seeing the first two.

12 hours ago, Dopamine said:

Hello

 

Im adding here the few logs i forgot to add in my first reply (understandably these may not be used as i have no way to confirm my claims, but i feel they may be useful to add)

 

here are what i believe to be the logs to the RDM claims sabertooth made, looking at the timestamps you can see they were spaced minutes apart

 

Player womcjovxd (Members Only) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) killed ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢ (  ) (STEAM_0:0:687203638) with weapon tfcss_usp <30-01-2025 / 21:21:51>
Player womcjovxd (Citizen) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) killed ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢ (  ) (STEAM_0:0:687203638) with weapon tfcss_sl8 <30-01-2025 / 21:19:33>
Player womcjovxd (Fantasma) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) killed ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢ (  ) (STEAM_0:0:687203638) with weapon handcuffsinhand <30-01-2025 / 21:18:48>

 

and directly relating to these logs here are the damage logs which show sabertooth did NOT damage first

 

Player womcjovxd (Members Only) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Unknown) with AK47 for 65. New health: 35 <30-01-2025 / 21:21:51>
Player womcjovxd (Members Only) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Unknown) with AK47 for 65. New health: 35 <30-01-2025 / 21:21:50>
Player womcjovxd (Members Only) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Unknown) with AK47 for 31. New health: 69 <30-01-2025 / 21:21:50>
Player womcjovxd (Members Only) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Unknown) with Weapon [2601][weapon_kidnapper_sk] for 5. New health: 95 <30-01-2025 / 21:21:09>
Player womcjovxd (Citizen) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Jetpack) with HK SL8 for 29. New health: 71 <30-01-2025 / 21:19:33>
Player womcjovxd (Citizen) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Jetpack) with HK SL8 for 29. New health: 71 <30-01-2025 / 21:19:32>
Player womcjovxd (Citizen) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Jetpack) with HK SL8 for 61. New health: 39 <30-01-2025 / 21:19:32>
Player womcjovxd (Citizen) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Jetpack) with HK SL8 for 29. New health: 71 <30-01-2025 / 21:19:31>
Player womcjovxd (Citizen) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Jetpack) with HK SL8 for 29. New health: 71 <30-01-2025 / 21:19:31>
Player womcjovxd (Citizen) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Jetpack) with HK SL8 for 29. New health: 71 <30-01-2025 / 21:19:30>
Player womcjovxd (Citizen) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Jetpack) with HK SL8 for 29. New health: 71 <30-01-2025 / 21:19:30>
Player womcjovxd (Citizen) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Jetpack) with HK SL8 for 29. New health: 71 <30-01-2025 / 21:19:30>
Player womcjovxd (Fantasma) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Unknown) with AUG for 55. New health: 45 <30-01-2025 / 21:18:48>
Player womcjovxd (Fantasma) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Inventory Pickup) with AUG for 26. New health: 74 <30-01-2025 / 21:18:48>
Player womcjovxd (Fantasma) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Inventory Pickup) with AUG for 26. New health: 74 <30-01-2025 / 21:18:48>
Player womcjovxd (Fantasma) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Inventory Pickup) with AUG for 26. New health: 74 <30-01-2025 / 21:18:48>
Player womcjovxd (Fantasma) (STEAM_0:0:885113191) attacked ︻ã ä¸S4B3RT00THâ¯â¢(STEAM_0:0:687203638) (  ) holding (Inventory Pickup) with AUG for 26. New health: 74 <30-01-2025 / 21:18:48>

 

and heres a log relating to the Swag Sammy sit which also hasnt been fully included yet, ive gathered information and that sit was about wom arresting Sammy for having a jackhammer out, in the clip sammy showed us last night sweps/weapons were NOT against the law (im adding this here as this is where the first batch of toxicity stems as far as i know) im currently awaiting that clip from Swag Swammy

Officer womcjovxd (PD Commander) (STEAM_0:0:885113191)  arrested Swag Sammy (Trapstar Kushjo) (STEAM_0:0:455572375)  <30-01-2025 / 21:42:08>

 

thanks for the two of you numbskulls clogging the thread with yet more useless walls of text logs that prove nothing other than youre own confirmation bias that you think im a "minge" justifying you not doing your job and gigamuting me for asking why i am warned for something abusing your powers. if s4b3rt00th was rdmed by me did he make a sit or anything on me to get this straightened? no he didnt and he broke rules against me as shown in the clips you two likely didnt watch. and if he did you two definitely without a doubt ignored the sit he made on me since you are lazy do nothings. "oh wow he shot this guy this proves..." do i need to provide my 5 hour play session to justify why i did something i cant even remember since you can pull up some bullshit logs that amount to nothing???? "oh hes a minge hes toxic for saying im fucking stupid and biased for not tping me and getting mad at mods for not doing theyre jobs" . do i have to literally justify everything i do on the server to you because of stupid logs like me arresting a cop? did this cop make a sit about this? no he didnt. so stop shitting up the thread. to entertain your bullshit i dont know why the fuck i did that it was probably some guy the mayor told me to arrest and it was probably the fucking assasin or a guy minging arresting other cops that i had to deal with since you ignore ALL my sits.  so i have prior bans, warns, or whatever does that mean you get a pass for being useless? treat everyone the same... innocent until proven guilty. you make me so mad. you are so moronic. stop making excuses. keep digging through your magic hat of logs to pull a rabbit out of it to prove you arent pathetic. mods like you make darkrp unplayable cancer. enough trying to do red herrings of logs when this about YOU TWO being BAD and USELESS as staff. READ my original reply. WATCH my video. if i am "TOXIC" (which really just means i said you are fucking bad at admin, stop exaggerating and distracting from your own shitty pathetic excuses.) the both of you are pathetic excuses of mods. people quit servers and never rejoin and tell everyone to leave over imbecilic jackasses like you. if i didnt record nobody would see this. keep shitting out webs of lies and excuses, keep saying i screamed at you obiworld despite my videos showing the contrary. 

 

7 hours ago, Queen Qworfleshnort said:

Swag sammy here, just waking up so bear with me.

Consider this my official reply, this is a simple situation of one of the two things A a toxic person abusing PD perms so someone else wasn't farming their metal or B this guy is a new player and genuinely doesn't understand. im a bit conflicted between the two but leaning towards a yet i digress.

Let's go over the things you did wrong. for a start you illegally weapon checked me when there was no laws in place allowing weapon checks as show in the clip. from there you autowant me without a rp reason and then send me to jail.

Your arrest is not allowed based off of the server rules. Considered RDA aka random arrest. this is a false forums report in the terms of our interaction for sure.

I also never said a word to you during our interaction and i have yet to watch whatever faked proof you have to show that i was "earraping" you because it never happened but wanted to edit this in as i just saw that because its a completely false claim as you can see from my clip in my pov

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jB370tlYkmaPQFw6n?invite=cr-MSxYaE4sMjY2MjY5OTUwLA

Wasn't there for the other stuff but I can understand obi making a mistake, he is a Tmod after all. just make him do another week or something so he can learn how to staff better.


 

another useless reply. only posted to defend your friends obiworld and door salesman (proving my point that obiworld and doorsalesman are biased towards you, probably instant messaged you to provide this useless clip and reply that is not needed). im not appealing the warn for "rdaing" you or whatever. you are not involved in this situation and were only mentioned to give context. this forums report/appeal is  between obiworld door salesmen and me regarding them being bad, useless mods that should just be tossed into the bin. on my point of view (what i saw and why i arrested you) you were literally mic spamming and your clip has no audio and talk button is held down. disturbing the peace is illegal all the time. i began recording audio after so this crap never happens again so i can play the server without these pathetic mods getting away with this nonsense "oh hes toxic he rda'ed me before therefore please ban him bla bla bla yada yada yada" how about some of you watch my clips that prove what im saying instead of posting crap. you are not involved. i am really angry at these dimwits handling my sits like crap. you are not apart of this 

15 hours ago, Opila Bird said:

All staff involved have proven to be incompetent

 

13 hours ago, Decent Human Being said:

Okay, from an outside perspective, spending a good 20 minutes reading through and watching everything this is a bit ridiculous. If I was in womcjovxd's shoes I would be really angry too. There are ways to conduct yourself as staff and there is ways you definitely don't. When a clearly newer player on the server is being put in deployable shield (which are destroyable by punching or shooting) and you offer to respawn him instead of just moving the shields, shooting the shields, phys gunning the guy out of the shields, or teleporting him 3 feet forward. This guy had 2 active tickets up at least at this time asking for help and you are just watching him stuck. Im not saying you have to handle the sit right then and there but do something to help this guy.

So the demote does not look valid from the video as in the laws weps/sweps were illegal. Womcjovxd is in the right when he is complaining that he is false demoted. Then when his sits are blatantly denied he relogs not knowing how to get out and obiworld warns him for having props in a house. Instead of bringing him to a sit over "propminge" which it wasn't you just warned him. Typically I do not give people a warn or ban for propminge unless it is abundantly apparent it is intended. Most of the time when you ask someone to remove props they will do it. So not only did he warn him over propminge without bringing him, it also does not appear to be propminge either. This is more than enough to drive anyone to the anger womcjovxd is experiencing.

 

Moving on womcjovxd starts typing out of frustration in OOC and gets gigamuted for an hour without typing any slurs. Unless he is clogging OOC, which he wasn't, there just wasn't a reason to mute him. You are allowed to voice frustration in OOC until at least asked to stop. I am just lost for words how something so minimal can get out of hand so fast.

 

Obiworld before jumping to conclusions bring the player to a sit first, look at the door logs to see that he owned that building. Punishments should not be handed out without a sit.

 

In my opinion this report has proven the involved staff members are incompetent without a doubt.

+1 for full demote on Obiworld

neutral toward any punishment on Door Salesman at this time (Haven't made up my mind/want to see what others think)

+1 for propminge warn removal 

thank you for seeing my side and understanding my rage. i am not replying to anymore posts especially from the likes of 'swag sammy' who are NOT even mods just theyre friends trying to derail the thread showing that that i am 'simple cop minge' when this about OBIWORLD and DOOR SALESMAN not doing theyre jobs and wasting my time. stop attacking my character and look at the evidence. take a second and imagine how many people get absolutely bullshitted by these types of mods on your server since not everyone cares to record their gameplay. imagine darkrp without these piss poor excuses of moderation

Hello, this will be my final reply as i have nothing else to say and believe this situation should be handled by other players and/or higher ups


Your continued toxicity throughout all of your replies tells me all i need to know about you, not just as a player but as a person

 

Once again i gigamuted you for spewing toxicity in OOC, i DID ask you to stop which is on YOUR clip but you continued, as for your warn situation AGAIN i was not involved in that, you can claim i muted you because you were asking about your warn but that doesnt make it true, AGAIN the logs AND your clip show the toxicity i have mentioned so many times (but no one seems to take into account?) 

 

As for my viewpoint on Swag Sammys post i believe it provides a valueable insight on what happened in the first sit (AGAIN when you started being toxic towards us) you mention him micspamming, but if you had taken care to watch his clip you notice he DID include audio AND the voice chat popup doesnt appear anywhere inside the clip, he also mentioned you wanting to farm his nodes, thats why you arrested him, again i cant confirm this but its possible due to the area the altercation happened in, AGAIN the reason im so adament on having this included in this report is because this is when the toxicity started

 

As a person, not just a player i shouldnt be expected to listen to him spewing toxicity at me and handle it the same way i would anyone else

 

As i have also already stated, no i cannot prove sabertooths claims but there are very little situations where a player may be killed minutes between with no rules broken

 

In this situation you claim your priors arent important, but they are because you had JUST got off a player tox ban and you got right back into it, if this is overlooked whats the point in the ban in the first place?

 

This is definitely one of those situations where I deeply express the reason we need to focus on quality of sit instead of quantity. 

 

after reading and watching provided evidence

I believe staff involved should not face any punishments so I am currently at

 

- demote on obi

- any punishments on door salesman 

 

But i do believe they should be talked to and noted on this  , from an easy move of a prop or moving player to looking at other log options ( door purchase/ prop spawn ) 

 

not all sits are easy , so it's important staff can use provided resources to determine out come and have full control of sit 

 

this is where involved staff could of done differently,

 

Watching a player be stuck in a breakable prop could of easily destroy or move player out the way ( i also understand why door was asking for permission )

 

mute would make more sense if player was using slurs or wall text spam in ooc but clearly that was not the point here 

 

Demote against wom was clearly false in provided clip , included clip also shows sweps are illegal , 

 

^ key reason and could of been end of all this if staff had seen and taken sit and ask if there was any clip but easily logs would prove sweps out while stun damage 

 

I do believe this scenario could of been handled more carefully even with a upset player like wom expressing himself on how staff weren't properly conducting sit is his opinion and I believe we are all allowed to have opinions whether others agree or disagree 

 

I do believe staff involved could of checked the log for the purchased door and prop spawn logs to determine if he was propblock/minge

 

I'm +1 for warn removal of propminge

 

All of this should of been handled in a sit

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On 1/31/2025 at 7:39 PM, Sleepy Tomoko said:

This is definitely one of those situations where I deeply express the reason we need to focus on quality of sit instead of quantity. 

 

after reading and watching provided evidence

I believe staff involved should not face any punishments so I am currently at

 

- demote on obi

- any punishments on door salesman 

 

But i do believe they should be talked to and noted on this  , from an easy move of a prop or moving player to looking at other log options ( door purchase/ prop spawn ) 

 

not all sits are easy , so it's important staff can use provided resources to determine out come and have full control of sit 

 

this is where involved staff could of done differently,

 

Watching a player be stuck in a breakable prop could of easily destroy or move player out the way ( i also understand why door was asking for permission )

 

mute would make more sense if player was using slurs or wall text spam in ooc but clearly that was not the point here 

 

Demote against wom was clearly false in provided clip , included clip also shows sweps are illegal , 

 

^ key reason and could of been end of all this if staff had seen and taken sit and ask if there was any clip but easily logs would prove sweps out while stun damage 

 

I do believe this scenario could of been handled more carefully even with a upset player like wom expressing himself on how staff weren't properly conducting sit is his opinion and I believe we are all allowed to have opinions whether others agree or disagree 

 

I do believe staff involved could of checked the log for the purchased door and prop spawn logs to determine if he was propblock/minge

 

I'm +1 for warn removal of propminge

 

All of this should of been handled in a sit

Tomoko's response is exactly what I'm thinking, I do agree that Obi and Door could have handled this better in a sit, however I do not feel that they should be punished, and just talked to about this situation. I am +1 for the warn removal though!

 

+1 for warn removal

+1 for talking to Obi/Door regarding this
-1 for any punishment for Obi/Door

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