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Mr.Crew55 & Dick Hanson RDM report


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Your In-Game Name:

DA BUSHMASTER DAT ENDED IT ALL

Your Steam ID:

STEAM_0:1:81306229

Who are you reporting?:

Mr.Crew55 (STEAM_0:1:419180861) & Dick Hanson (STEAM_0:0:76343004)

Why are you reporting this player?:

Crew shot me after I merely walked towards him and didn't do anything that could be used to justify shooting at me. After shooting back and trying to back away, Dick Hanson who I cuffed and fined 5 seconds earlier for having a gun without a license shot and killed me unprompted. The only 2 staff online at the time (chesmond & Enowapi) did not take my sit after 15 minutes so I decided to go here instead.

Do you have evidence related to this incident?:

Yes

Relevant Info:

https://streamable.com/xa8zpt
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Sits dont stay up for very long after that they go off the screen, crew shot you because you weapon checked him which is 100% within the rules as for the other guy yea he didnt party assist so thats not good

 

ill +1 a warn against dick hanson but -1 mr crew as he had a right to shoot at u

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6 minutes ago, Enowapi said:

Sits dont stay up for very long after that they go off the screen, crew shot you because you weapon checked him which is 100% within the rules as for the other guy yea he didnt party assist so thats not good

 

ill +1 a warn against dick hanson but -1 mr crew as he had a right to shoot at u

What are you talking about? It's exceedingly clear that I didn't weaponcheck him. His weapons didn't show up in chat as with the other two that I fined.

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6 minutes ago, DA BUSHMASTER DAT ENDED IT ALL said:

What are you talking about? It's exceedingly clear that I didn't weaponcheck him. His weapons didn't show up in chat as with the other two that I fined.

you 100% attempted to weapon check him thats blatantly obvious by you scrolling to it and running at him back and forth

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2 minutes ago, Enowapi said:

you 100% attempted to weapon check him thats blatantly obvious by you scrolling to it and running at him back and forth

"Having a firearm without a license: If you are searched and possess a weapon without a license you can be arrested. Police may randomly search you if they have reason to believe you possess an unlicensed weapon, but it is a hostile action and you may fight back."

 

The act of having the weaponchecker equipped doesn't qualify you for instant death, an actual search has to be done. Just as you're not allowed to KOS cops for having cuffs equipped in front of you, it's only when they swing their cuffs is it valid to shoot.

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2 minutes ago, DA BUSHMASTER DAT ENDED IT ALL said:

"Having a firearm without a license: If you are searched and possess a weapon without a license you can be arrested. Police may randomly search you if they have reason to believe you possess an unlicensed weapon, but it is a hostile action and you may fight back."

 

The act of having the weaponchecker equipped doesn't qualify you for instant death, an actual search has to be done. Just as you're not allowed to KOS cops for having cuffs equipped in front of you, it's only when they swing their cuffs is it valid to shoot.

Correct but you attempting to weapon check or actually weapon checking is KOS

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2 minutes ago, Enowapi said:

Correct but you attempting to weapon check...

No, actually. No rule whatsoever says attempting a weaponcheck makes me KOS. It explicitly states that the check itself is the hostile action, and you can't even prove it was an attempt, but that's irrelevant either way. Attempting a cuff is a different story because once it happens you have absolutely no chance of fighting back. I can walk up to people with the checker equipped all day and it would be RDM no matter what if a check wasn't actually done.

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It's clear as day what your intention was.. It's all in the clip. But either way Mr crew should not have shot at you. Best action here would be to warn first then Kos... 

 

Regarding dick Hanson if you look at 0:16 you are shooting in the direction of him and crew.. Obviously for crew I understand. But for dick handson you shooting in his direction gives him full right to shoot you.

 

  • If you're shot at, you're allowed to fire back even if they miss

Verbal for crew / explain to him what to do next time 

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8 minutes ago, {GN} Isaac said:

It's clear as day what your intention was.. It's all in the clip. But either way Mr crew should not have shot at you. Best action here would be to warn first then Kos... 

 

Regarding dick Hanson if you look at 0:16 you are shooting in the direction of him and crew.. Obviously for crew I understand. But for dick handson you shooting in his direction gives him full right to shoot you.

 

  • If you're shot at, you're allowed to fire back even if they miss

Verbal for crew / explain to him what to do next time 

You can't prove my intent, nor does it matter since a check wasn't performed. If that misc rule applied in the way you're implying it does, then that means anyone in any capacity remotely near any kind of gunfight is allowed to just randomly shoot one of the people fighting. That rule is there for if Player A fires at Player B with the intent to hurt or shoot around them, not if Player C is nearby and suddenly feels like freely killing Player A because he shot somewhat near him.

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