Dangernuudel Admin Abusing

[bnorb333]

that's when you told me if you SHOOT a cop, and avoid arrest by changing is fail RP.

 

I told you disguising to avoid arrest in any manner is failRP

 

I really don't want to get into a hearsay argument at all, especially because I felt you handled the situation very professionally and mature so sure, but regardless kissing isn't an arrestable offense. So if I'm trying to avoid a false arrest, am I wrong? Akin to when you're RDMed, NLR isn't active. I'm not trying to tell anyone how to anything and I'm not an expert on gmod server rules I'm just an asshole who likes to play just like everyone else in the server. It isn't fair and It isn't even that serious I shouldn't have gotten a warn in the first place, despite his feelings about me telling him he was wrong. He says he was going to just verbally tell me but since he felt "insulted" because I decided to tell him what rule he was overlooking he had to punish me. It's not wrong for me to inform a relatively new admin on something, and If he had his way and I wouldn't have said anything to him, he wouldn't even know arresting on that basis is wrong. As if he's above not knowing something its alright lol.

[Georgio (67th Regiment)]

but regardless kissing isn't an arrestable offense

 

Rape is illegal, its common sense.

[bnorb333]

but regardless kissing isn't an arrestable offense

 

Rape is illegal, its common sense.

Thanks for your input Georgio. Common sense isn't a good argument in a game where you can walk around as an alien or better yet a frog riding a unicycle my friend. But objectively, Do !laws next time you get in the server and see if the default laws say "kissing is illegal".

[Kilobyte]

There's also default things that are AOS in the MOTD, not just the default things in the !laws, which makes me assume you haven't read the rules.

 

I'd deny this right now because kissing is sexual assault, and AOS, but the owner is viewing this so imma let him do his thing

[bnorb333]

There's also default things that are AOS in the MOTD, not just the default things in the !laws, which makes me assume you haven't read the rules.

 

I'd deny this right now because kissing is sexual assault, and AOS, but the owner is viewing this so imma let him do his thing

 

Hey Kilobyte thanks for giving some input man. So, I did read the MOTD, and I wasn't able to find "sexual assault is AOS", or anything pertaining to that, so if you could copy and paste the rule that says that or something along those lines so I could be informed that'd be great man. Let me ask you something too, why is it that no one has taken my word for anything I've said? I've been the only one questioned and prodded, yet I'm the one who made the forum trying to expose the abuse of the moderator role by danger. I stand by my statement that he false warned me out of anger of being incorrect, and it resulted in my ban therefore my ban is false regardless of my previous warns that have nothing to do with this situation. I'm wondering if it's because he's a moderator it's been assumed that he was in the right and his word is to be taken correct over mine.

[Georgio (67th Regiment)]

bnorb, I found some things in the MOTD that you asked for. The law that states that using props to hide from arrest is in the kidnapper rules. (even if the whole argument is whether it was an RP situation

As far as slap being AOS, I can't find anything in the server rules, however, I think it's in the job description of the aliens, I'm not on right now so someone has to double-check me. 

And finally, your previous response to me has some say to it, that common sense is kind of void. But some things do speak for themselves. However, if there is no rule anywhere, I believe that your strike should be taken away and that any time already served in your ban here be removed from when you do get banned for your fifteenth strike or something else. However, I'm not a mod so someone who knows what they are talking about would have to say there.  As far as admin abuse though I think it's to the extreme, I believe danger was in the right to warn you fully, so this is more of a warn appeal if anything.

EDIT: Also I don't really know what to say about the whole thing involving the if he was trying to arrest you or not, you guys will have to figure that out yourself.

[Zhong Xina]

I said I wouldn’t reply but this has gotten out of hand so I will. See that rule that says “DO use common sense?”

 

If some person walked up to you IRL and forced you to make out with them for 10+ seconds, wouldn’t you agree that they would go to jail?

 

Still, my intentions were to kill you, but even if I wanted to arrest you, I think that would be justified. You disguising yourself was still not justified in any way shape or form.

[Georgio (67th Regiment)]

Now that I look at the rules again I do see the thing stating about common sense. If you want one here a quote.

DO listen to staff. Even if something isn't explicitly mentioned in the MOTD, does not mean it's okay or approved by the staff team. Staff have the final decision on any matter, and if we determine something was clearly common sense enough that it should obviously not have been allowed, you will be punished regardless of it's explicit mention in the rules. Examples: "Oh, yeah, I was banned, but the rules don't say I can't just hop on a different account, why did you guys perma me for alting?!?" "I got gigamuted, you cant punish me for dodging it with anon chat!!!1!" "The rules don't say I CAN'T blow up everyone at fountain, so long as I use a drug processor!" All of these are real examples, and are why this rule is here. This is a game server, not a legal consortium. If we deem something as obvious enough we shouldn't have to spell it out so the MOTD doesn't end up having to be reviewed by legal professionals. If you're smart enough to connect to our server, you are smart enough to know why those three examples were stupid

[bnorb333]

bnorb, I found some things in the MOTD that you asked for. The law that states that using props to hide from arrest is in the kidnapper rules. (even if the whole argument is whether it was an RP situation

As far as slap being AOS, I can't find anything in the server rules, however, I think it's in the job description of the aliens, I'm not on right now so someone has to double-check me. 

And finally, your previous response to me has some say to it, that common sense is kind of void. But some things do speak for themselves. However, if there is no rule anywhere, I believe that your strike should be taken away and that any time already served in your ban here be removed from when you do get banned for your fifteenth strike or something else. However, I'm not a mod so someone who knows what they are talking about would have to say there.  As far as admin abuse though I think it's to the extreme, I believe danger was in the right to warn you fully, so this is more of a warn appeal if anything.

EDIT: Also I don't really know what to say about the whole thing involving the if he was trying to arrest you or not, you guys will have to figure that out yourself.

Yes I saw the Do not use your disguise swep to avoid RP/arrest

 And i was going to comment on that being the only thing I saw pertaining to this situation and how it just wraps around to the same argument. But honestly bro this is not this serious. I remember the altercation. Dude was mad. And I can say that without bias because in two other situations admins were affable and understanding about the rule they TOLD me about. Rule being that you can't arrest over being kissed. If kissing isn't AOS it just isn't. Why am I being berated on that? I really do appreciate your input. On my part I say it was abuse because I feel being a part of the situation it was a warn out of anger and with no basis. Which is abuse. But I will say this, Moderators/admins are people too people are imperfect and its all good. I felt I had to stand up for myself or things like this would go on unchecked.

[Georgio (67th Regiment)]

Ok, that's an understandable response, calling it abuse is still extra IMO. Even if he was angry I don't think he warned you just because of him being angry, as stated you broke NLR multiple times which may have been a part reason for the warning, but I think I'm gonna stop replying too as this is basically solved.

Edit: Oh also, it says in the spooky alien job that "People might not like smooches and may try to kill you." Which granted isn't much but is still something.