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  1. 8 minutes ago, Abstergo McStubbins said:

    And as far as I know, they were punished for what they did, as they should have been. I don't see how not being able to say ****** would have prevented this.

     

    The real problem you guys will face if you decide to put a blanket ban on slurs is twofold. One, people will just come up with more slurs, more workarounds, more loopholes to say the things they want to say. You will only be maker your job as a staff member more difficult.

     

    You also have to consider that making a word forbidden is exactly how words like "******" got their power in the first place. Words are only held in contempt because people choose to give them that power. And banning people from using them altogether will result in their use increasing tenfold. I haven't been around quite long enough to know personally, but I have been told by multiple people that back when the rules around the N word were fairly relaxed and unenforced, the use of it was not so common, nor "brave and edgy" as people find it now. Then again, it's not a good thing to normalise that kind of talk either.

     

    I just honestly don't think "Don't say this" solves the issue. It's a band-aid fix to a more systemic issue. I think the way it is handled works for now. If someone is being a piece of shit, you slam them. If someone is just being an idiot, then so be it.

    Then I think we should crack down on these issues then. I said that this would be a great first step. We should also make sure that harassment of people who are LGBTQ should also be prevented and that when things like this happen, they are enforced just as well as a racism case. I didn't sign up for staff to have an easy time. I signed up for the betterment of the server and give everyone an even keel. 

     

    6 minutes ago, Tass said:

    Now I'm all for warning or banning people if they are actually going after people who are LGBTQ or gay with slurs. Like if a female joins the server and keeps getting made fun of for their gender than we do step in tell people to stop. But I think if we were to ban or warn for these reasons staff should be have to "read the room" like was it said to be hateful towards some who it does happen to be offense to which in this case if a sit was made i believe it should be fine to tell the person who said it to stop first and if they continue to go on with other punishments. If its just two friends being bullies to eachother but someone from outside their friend group see is in ooc or and advert or something and gets offended, if a sit is made id basically just say bring them to a sit ask if they could at least leave that talk to pms, party, gang chat, etc...

    Yeah, I do agree with this to an extent. I don't think the use of this word should be tolerated so easily, but even if the word remains free to be said, we still need to make sure cases of harassment against people that are LGBTQ, are dealt with swiftly. That's why I made this post, mainly to not just advocate for restriction of the use of the word "f****t", but to also raise awareness about cases of harassment and bullying against people based on gender and sexual orientation, which I feel is often overlooked. 

  2. 50 minutes ago, Blue. said:

    I think there needs to be a line drawn on how much we police people. Currently we do not allow users to be overly offensive. We don't allow users to be overly homophobic, or transphobic, or whatever. The general consensus is if you are harassing someone and being a piece of shit about it, then we step in. I don't agree with policing people for just saying ****** or dyke if it's in a consensual manner and they aren't being excessive with it. Especially when its out of ooc.

    I think at a certain point it's just banter and shitting around, and it's not worth the trouble if no one is being targeted or harassed for their sexuality, gender, whatever.

    Current system seems fair, might just need to be enforced more.

     

    I agree to an extent with you. I think the current system is good, but I still believe that ******, out of all words, is overused too much, and it is a slur as well. Hearing that being used freely, especially being used against people who are LGBTQ, really irks me, and I don't think it should be allowed to be used freely, even if they aren't using it to insult someone, because it is a slur just like the hard r. If someone says the hard r, they get gigamuted, but if someone says ******, then they don't get shit done to them. I disagree with that completely. I'm not trying to be the PC police, but it's 2021, and there's more than just racism to worry about. 

     

     

    35 minutes ago, LeGerbs said:

    The slur F****t has more or less changed it's meaning over the past decade. When most people use this word its calling them a dumbass/asshole or someone they generally just don't like. It's not directed at the LGBT group.

    ****** is known worldwide, unanimously, as a slur torwards gay people, and that doesn't mean that just because people don't use it that way, means it's alright. How would you justify saying the hard r? I've heard people use this before to ALSO call someone a dumbass. 

     

    38 minutes ago, LeGerbs said:

    Let's be real guys this is the internet people are gonna say shit, talk big and overall be offensive. By policing people more and more it's going to drop the player numbers even more. Our player numbers have dropped so much over the past five months. 

    We shouldn't have the ability to call someone a slur or the ability to use slurs freely be the reason why we retain player numbers. That's the wrong reason. I get that obviously shit goes down, but you can control what goes down in a community. Like I said, if we're willing to handle reports on other servers related to members of the community, then we can easily handle limiting words that insult or discriminate people due to gender and sexual orientation, things that cannot be easily changed. 

     

     

    42 minutes ago, LeGerbs said:

    If you really can't handle someone saying mean words than you probably shouldn't be staff. Again I say this as a broad statement not directed at you Dan or any others.

    I disagree. No matter what you decide to do, you aren't obligated to listen to people harass you or other people for your sexual orientation, gender, and race. Nobody needs to tolerate it, so instead of trying to make people all tough and rigid, we should try making it a better community by coming together. Limiting slurs would be a good first step in bettering tits. I know it is called TITS, but that doesn't mean we should allow people to harass and dox trans people, which TITS RP has had happen at least twice. 

  3. 48 minutes ago, Reiko said:

    So any verbal/text based insults regarding ethinicity (racism), disability, language, nationality, physical appearance, religion, gender identity and sexual orientation would be banned? 

     

    All in all, i think it is a good idea but it is not feasible. The internet and games like darkrp are a place for people to be unfiltered to a degree. not saying that racism is worse than hate of a sexual orientation. But i think racism is an easier standard and collectively agreeable sort of line to draw. It is definetely morally correct but realisitically impossible. 

    I believe that would be the best thing to implement, and would benefit the server as a whole. At the least, you should not be saying slurs related to sexual orientation, gender, or race, as those cannot be naturally controlled. If we are able to allow reports from other servers related to  members of the community, then I believe this should be implemented as well. 

  4. 10 minutes ago, Abstergo McStubbins said:

    Props to you for standing up in what you believe in I guess. You're probably gonna get memed on hard for this though, might have been a better idea to bring this up in a staff meeting or something. Overall I'm neutral on this topic. I think people ideally should be acting and speaking in a way that doesn't denigrate the LGBT members of the community, but at the same time this is the first time I've seen anyone bring this up. I don't think the current system is so bad; not doing anything until somebody has an issue. Don't forget that even as a staff member you are allowed to be that person who has an issue if this kind of stuff does get out of hand.

     

    On the other hand, taking away 15 year olds right to call eachother faggots in a video game is going to be met with some pretty heavy backlash.

    I'm not on the server sometimes, so if a staff member thinks it isn't an issue to them, then the person being discriminated against is in a predicament. 

  5. I have a request here. I know this/these words are used commonly, but that does not make it okay. I am mainly talking about words that are meant to insult people in the LGBTQ. The main word in particular I am talking about, is the word that starts with Fa, This word should not be allowed to be used at all in the way people use it in this community, and its always been used to insult people for a number of reasons, and its even worse when you actually use it in the way that pisses me and other members of the LGBTQ community off: to insult them. I am really disappointed in the way people who are LGBTQ are treated on this server in general, and I believe that a good first step to remedy this, is to disallow the use of not just the homophobic Fa word, but also dyke, tranny, and transsexual as well. Those few are just a handful of slurs offensive to the LGBTQ community, and if we just focus on the ones most commonly used, we can make this community a better place for everyone. Please, Doc, Rubik, Sugar, and admins, please look at this request seriously. I've tolerated the use of this word, but I do not condone this word, and there have been incidents where trans people have been discriminated against. If racism isn't allowed, then transphobia, as well as  homophobia should not be allowed either then. I hope this can help make Tits RP a better place. We're here to have fun after all, and as a member of the LGBTQ, and an ally of the trans community, I know that putting this in effect, or even just not allowing discrimination against people for sexuality, would definitely make Tits RP a better place to play.

    By the way the FA word in particular is censored on the forums, so it should not be allowed in-game

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  6. 16 minutes ago, ZestyBoi said:

    don't get pocket sand at all, also morpher is pretty bad in its own right as it only helps when fucking around and not when doing any sort of defending / raiding

    Yeah I decided to replace pocket sand with force drop, so this is what all the perks gonna be honestly. I'll go take a look but my vice president and I have discussed the perks we together would want and I decided to at least respect his morpher pick. 

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  8. 20 minutes ago, Rubik said:

    Just to clarify this a bit.. Decompiling a model is never a good idea because tons of things can go wrong, especially if you don't know what you're doing. This could lead to server crashes that are near impossible to debug.

    The person that made the model would have the resources and expertise to make changes to the model without anything going wrong. If someone comes to me and wants a model modified in some way, I always point them to the original author for help because we simply don't provide any support for workshop models, we only add them to the server so you and your friends can use it.

     

    The reason why we do not accept models that are not on the workshop is simply because these models tend to give us the most problems. A lot of times these models are from an older version of Garry's Mod, contain nude bodygroups, or is not allowed on the Steam Workshop for some other reason. Only accepting models and sweps from the Steam Workshop makes it easier for us to determine the reputation & quality of the content before we add it to the server. It might seem a bit lazy or careless for me to just say, "I will only accept models with a good reputation on the workshop", but you must consider the fact that there are hundreds of players on the server daily with new players dropping in every few minutes. It is my duty and a priority of mine to make sure content that is added to the server is safe and will not cause issues for our players. Server stability and performance is #1 over everything, including money. Unlike most servers, I do not profit on custom content. All of the money goes to pay server costs and does not go in my pocket, so I'm not really concerned with selling as many models as possible as quickly as I can. It is more important to me that I add quality content for players that will not break the server or cause players to crash. I can look at the workshop upload, read the comments, the rating, file size, etc. to determine if it's a good model to add.

     

    To determine if a model is going to work best for you, you should test it out in single player first. How does it compare in size and height to the default citizen model? Once they are added to the server, models can automatically be restricted from raiding, revolting, or have reduced HP and damage if they are small or have wacky hitboxes. 

    Thanks for clarifying that. I understand that it was for performance reasons whenever I talked to you, but I am glad you brought that out there to the public as well. I should of clarified a bit more but you did a much better job at it.

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