Sticks Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 In-Game Name Sticks Your Steam ID STEAM_0:0:84586685 Why were you banned or warned? Mass NLR | LTAP Why should you be unwarned/unbanned? I did not commit Mass NLR, nor did I LTAP Who warned/banned you? daveziggy100 How long were you warned or banned for? 1 week I would like to see any and all evidence that dave has that shows that I mass NLRed, as I know that I did not do it I also was banned almost an hour after I disconnected from the server. I am not sure how you can reasonably call that LTAP, or ban me without me being there to defend myself. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koda Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) Forwarding to the banning staff member. Staff Member was notified. Edited April 28, 2021 by koda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koda Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I will leave my input until dave actually is available to reply. A whole hour after you disconnected, a ban got issued? What in the world? That is 10000% not what LTAP is, hell I would still hold this argument if it was 8 minutes instead of 1 hour. I can't really say anything else about the Mass NLR since there is nothing to show for at the moment as we are still awaiting dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticks Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 I do have proof of me being banned an hour after I logged off. The first image shows that my last login was 14 hours ago, and the second shows that I was banned 12.5 hours ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticks Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, koda said: I will leave my input until dave actually is available to reply. A whole hour after you disconnected, a ban got issued? What in the world? That is 10000% not what LTAP is, hell I would still hold this argument if it was 8 minutes instead of 1 hour. I can't really say anything else about the Mass NLR since there is nothing to show for at the moment as we are still awaiting dave. Even if the logs showed that I mass nlred(hypothetically), would you still consider it right to ban me a whole hour after I had already disconnected? When I can not defend myself in any way? Edited April 28, 2021 by Sticks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koda Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Sticks said: I do have proof of me being banned an hour after I logged off. The first image shows that my last login was 14 hours ago, and the second shows that I was banned 12.5 hours ago That is not LTAP what so ever, no idea how it was considered, if anything I will talk to him about the LTAP thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koda Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sticks said: Even if the logs showed that I mass nlred(hypothetically), would you still consider it right to ban me a whole hour after I had already disconnected? When I can not defend myself in any way? Actually, this is correct, I usually tell people if something happened an hour ago and the person is offline, to make a forums report, even if I have logs because I want to give people a chance to defend themselves. Even if this MNLR happened, I do not think that the ban should have been executed until he was proven guilty with chance to defend himself by admin sit or forums report. +1 Edited April 28, 2021 by koda someone -> something, and more explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixnut Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) Koda pretty much covered it. I'm not sure why you were punished an hour after you logged off I'm +1 for unban for now. Edited April 28, 2021 by Sixnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ember Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Wasn't gave a chance to defend himself +1 for unban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakos Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Neutral, for now. if dave can provide solid evidence, I can understand a reduction but the ban would still be valid. LTAP should not have been included in the ban reason, and dave should have referred the player to the forums with evidence rather than banning them while offline. In general however, if Sticks is in the wrong, he still deserves a ban, though a shorter one would be far more valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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